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Sadly . . .this is accurate. Fundamentalists divide the people and the church of Christ by usurping God's role of determining who is and who is not a "true" follower of Christ. This whole "True Christian" nonsense is an abomination to God, an affront to His judgment, and a source of contention and division among of the people of God. "I would not say such things if I were you!" . . Fundy.
You are agreeing with a mystic who doesn't believe in scripture. How does he know what is an abominationation to God if he doesn't believe in scripture.
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No one is saying, you go around to different people to accuse them of not being a follower. It is the job of the shepherd of preaching the word correctly and soundly so that people can be convicted and the Holy Spirit can work in them furthermore if you have goats in the church and they go into the world and do despicable things, it reflects and hurts the gospel not to mention the church that person attends(When the world screams HYPOCRITES!!) So it is scriptural.
But we are off topic
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You are agreeing with a mystic who doesn't believe in scripture. How does he know what is an abominationation to God if he doesn't believe in scripture.
Now I have told you repeatedly that I believe the scriptures, Fundy . . . yet you repeatedly misrepresent it (oh, hell you do it enough that it has to be deliberate . . . YOU LIE ABOUT IT at every opportunity.) Please stop. Just because you literally read scripture like an ignorant primitive savage from 2000+ years ago does NOT mean that I don't believe scripture when I call you on that primitive ignorance.
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You have every right to be divisive and contentious and separate the church of Christ into "True" and not true . . . using fallible human interpretations of primitive writings. I wouldn't be so bold or self-assured, myself. If someone claims to follow Christ . . . I applaud it and rejoice with God in the fact. God will not be fooled. He doesn't need you to point out the "True" Christians!!!
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You are agreeing with a mystic who doesn't believe in scripture. How does he know what is an abominationation to God if he doesn't believe in scripture.
I stand by what I said
Jesus himself was a mystic - he spoke in parables about 'the secret of the Kingdom of God' and said that he did so in order that people 'may listen and listen, yet not understand' (Mark 4:11-12). Yet he clearly believed in Scripture. Why do you have to reject others' understandings just because they interpret Scripture in a different way to you?
I will not write you off you as an 'unbeliever', even though your literalist 'doctrine' seems to have an 'unsound' basis:
Jesus' mission was to 'preach the Good News' (Mark 1:14-15), and we are told that he 'would not speak to the people without using parables' (Mark 4:34).
The gospel writers were followers of Jesus - they followed his lead in their gospels by preaching 'This is the Good News' (Mark 1:1). Why then would they not have followed Jesus' lead by preaching their own gospels using parables too?
Many believe in Christ's way of preaching - many believe in parables. These people are the fundamentalists - they accept the fundamental basis behind the preaching of the Christian gospel. If you don't want to believe in parabolic meanings, that's fine, but to ourightly reject the possibility that the gospel writers used metaphor seems to be censoring Jesus' own form of communication.
The book 'The Judas Secret' has given me good grounds for believing that the gospel is all true, and that its story is told partly literally and partly
through parable and metaphor. This approach is great for assuaging peoples' doubts. So many more people could believe in the Bible, yet most are prevented from doing so by some Christians' arbitrary and aggressive
insistence on literalism. If only Christianity could free itself from this unnecessary straitjacket, its gospel message could be opened up to a whole new section of the population.
Jesus himself was a mystic - he spoke in parables about 'the secret of the Kingdom of God' and said that he did so in order that people 'may listen and listen, yet not understand' (Mark 4:11-12). Yet he clearly believed in Scripture. Why do you have to reject others' understandings just because they interpret Scripture in a different way to you?..............
No Jesus was not a mystic and Jesus believed in scripture as He was ALWAYS quoting from it...."it is written"........"Have you not heard" as mystics only pick and choose what they want from scripture. I am not mad at them, they are just lost and misguided as I was. A mystic has much the understanding of scripture as an unbeliever.
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