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Old 02-09-2010, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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A interesting point, but in my wife's unit they are having problems even now with people not wanting to share rooms in the barracks because of homosexuality. It is not just a Christian issue. There are non Christians who are being affected by it too.

Christians are getting the blame, but the others who arent Christian and oppose it get no mention. Why not Islam? Why not Athiests? Why not the everyday soldier who doesnt want to live with someone who is gay? As my wife and I can both attest it is not just Christians.
Thankyou for pointing that fact out.

 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:16 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Freedom of religion is gone. We now only have freedom from religion. The constitution gurarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Those people who are against religion have turned the words and made the freedom of religion something it was never meant to be. They are the hateful people, not Christians.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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In actuality the freedom of religion was specificaly Christian and Jewish, all other were considered pagan and actually against the law of the Land.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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A interesting point, but in my wife's unit they are having problems even now with people not wanting to share rooms in the barracks because of homosexuality. It is not just a Christian issue. There are non Christians who are being affected by it too.

Christians are getting the blame, but the others who arent Christian and oppose it get no mention. Why not Islam? Why not Athiests? Why not the everyday soldier who doesnt want to live with someone who is gay? As my wife and I can both attest it is not just Christians.

Personally I don't care whether it's Christian, Islam, Judaism, or any other kind of religion. In this country an individual is guaranteed the right to live his lifestyle as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others and no religion can take precedence over that and no sacred book can take precedence over the Constitution Of The United States. Like I said, I may not agree with the lifestyle of the homosexuals, but I will defend their right to live that lifestyle that is guaranteed under our Constitution, that is the law of the land and anybody who goes against that should be prepared to suffer the consequences.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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Personally I don't care whether it's Christian, Islam, Judaism, or any other kind of religion. In this country an individual is guaranteed the right to live his lifestyle as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others and no religion can take precedence over that and no sacred book can take precedence over the Constitution Of The United States. Like I said, I may not agree with the lifestyle of the homosexuals, but I will defend their right to live that lifestyle that is guaranteed under our Constitution, that is the law of the land and anybody who goes against that should be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Well what about when homosexuality was against the law of the land? Why were they spared?
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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The Holy Bible speaks clearly against Homosexuality.

Christian speech targeted as 'hate'

But Obama's Hate Speech Bill prohibited it and persecuted Christians for fellowship the Bible Teaching.

Christian speech targeted as 'hate'

Is it ok or not, what should Christians do: to follow Obama or the Holy Bible?

Any tought?
Worldnet Daily, really? I mean come on, REALLY??? That's like the national enquirer for christians; it's a rag!

You people with your desperate need to force your religious beliefs on everyone around you scare me. How is that any different than any other oppressive religion? The USA was not founded as a christian country; that much is very clear from the words of our founders. Why can't you people just live and let live? Raise your kids however it's important to you, and give everyone else the same courtesy. If we want to learn about your beliefs we'll ask. Otherwise keep your nose and religion to yourself.

You people are freakin' scary.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on Earth
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Well what about when homosexuality was against the law of the land? Why were they spared?
Interracial marriage and being any other color other than white was against the law of the land back then too. Why are they spared now?
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Yes, and the 1st step should be eliminating freedom of religion for non-Christians. That's the 1st commandment, after all.
I really can't tell. Are you being sarcastic here, or do you really think that only Christians are entitled to the protection of the Bill of Rights?
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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Personally I don't care whether it's Christian, Islam, Judaism, or any other kind of religion. In this country an individual is guaranteed the right to live his lifestyle as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others and no religion can take precedence over that and no sacred book can take precedence over the Constitution Of The United States. Like I said, I may not agree with the lifestyle of the homosexuals, but I will defend their right to live that lifestyle that is guaranteed under our Constitution, that is the law of the land and anybody who goes against that should be prepared to suffer the consequences.
*confetties*

Wonder when they are going to play the association card...
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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Personally I don't care whether it's Christian, Islam, Judaism, or any other kind of religion. In this country an individual is guaranteed the right to live his lifestyle as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others and no religion can take precedence over that and no sacred book can take precedence over the Constitution Of The United States. Like I said, I may not agree with the lifestyle of the homosexuals, but I will defend their right to live that lifestyle that is guaranteed under our Constitution, that is the law of the land and anybody who goes against that should be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Of course you dont care, but then what about the people who dont want to live with it? Or dont they matter. I made the point where it infringes on the rights of people who dont want to be around it. Yet, all you care about is the fact that it infringes on their rights.

The problem is a bit deeper than you seem to understand. You think its Christians only, the problem is much wider than that.

So do you agree or not, the homosexuals are infringing on the rights of those who do not want to accept them?

Do you accept there are people in the military who do not want to even room with them male and female because it makes them uncomfortable?

You see I was in a military unit. I have seen homosexuals come home drunk to a barracks and try to have sex with thier roommates. How does that person feel? I have seen people crushed and unable to serve because a homosexual showed them affection.

Quoting the constitution is nice and all, but perhaps you might serve in the military and understand the implications. As I have been in declared war zones as my wife is right now, the situation creates many problems. It is not as easy as you think.
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