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But it Was Not Our World, it Was the World of Israel.
THE JEWISH WORLD - FROM ABRAHAM TO CHRIST
The first chapter of Matthew contains an interesting verse: V17 "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations." The nation of Israel had its very beginning with Abraham, and ended in the days of Christ. It lasted forty-two generations. If Israel were to continue after a two thousand year pause in existence or "holding pattern," or "dormant period," we can be sure the Bible would have worded this passage differently. But the Word of God says nothing about a "restored" Israel in the future, nor any future generation or remnant of Israel. The generation living in Christ's day was the last generation. The Rapture happened. The Resurrection happened. Christ returned. The Great Tribulation happened - not exactly the way "prophets" have been describing it for years. But remember, it only concerned the nation and people of Israel. If Bible scholars could ever accept that, and re-examine their cherished theologies, they would find that 99% of all Scripture verses easily fit into a comprehensible pattern of sound Bible theology; it all would make sense.
DANIEL'S PROPHECY CLOSED
Prophecy experts have preached for years that the book of Daniel will be a "sealed" book until the Second Coming of Christ, that we will only begin to understand it then. And the verse from Daniel most often quoted is this one: "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end." (Dan. 12:15). This means, without a doubt, that no one was supposed to understand anything that Daniel wrote until the time of the end. But a few hundred years later, the Lord Jesus Christ himself quoted from Daniel:
DANIEL'S PROPHECY WAS OPENED
Matt. 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand" History records that Christ came to earth some 2000 years ago. That was His First Advent. In the days of Christ's First Advent, whosoever heard Him, or whosoever read Daniel's book for himself, could understand it. That, therefore, was the time of the end. The modern Jew today refuses to believe that, and so do certain Bible scholars. The stubbornness of the Jews can be explained; they don't believe in Christ, and reject the New Testament. No one can understand those Bible scholars.
The bottom line is, Christ came to give Israel one last chance. They blew it. Therefore, what would have been a glorious new beginning for the nation became, instead, the time of the end.
THE GOSPEL ALREADY PREACHED
Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Ever since who can remember when, modern "prophets" have been keeping us informed about the advances in radio and television, and how the Gospel is going out even into the remotest parts of the earth, and that it won't be long before the whole earth will be covered with the preaching of the Gospel, and that will be one of the things that will signal the time for Christ to return.
But if we set aside imaginations, and just believe the Bible, we find that the Gospel has already been preached in all the world --- 2000 years ago. Colossians 1:23 "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; "
So, the Gospel was preached in all the known world at that time, thus setting the stage for the end of the world to happen any time thereafter. Now, if the end of the world had not come in those days, and if the world is still waiting to hear the Gospel, then Paul's announcement that the Gospel had already been preached to every creature under heaven would have been a lie. All the "creatures under heaven," most assuredly included the Jews (especially the Jews), and the world was the world as it was then known, not the entire globe. "The end," was the end of the Jewish world.
IN THESE LAST DAYS
Hebrews 1:1-2 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds";
In the "old days," God spoke to the "Old Timers" of Israel by the prophets. But IN THESE LAST DAYS He spoke to "us" (the first century Jews) by His Son, Jesus Christ. This verse leaves no room for debate: "These last days" came in the days of Christ's first advent. We can say that the "last days" lasted from the moment of Gabriel's announcement to Mary of the coming birth of Jesus (the beginning of the end), to the end of the war between Rome and Israel in AD70.
SPIRIT POURED OUT UPON ALL FLESH
Acts 2:17 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams": Common "wisdom" of the learned vainly awaits the day when God will pour out of His Spirit upon all flesh. In actuality, however, that has already happened. Acts 10:45 "And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost." The Jewish Christians were astonished, they couldn't believe that God would pour out of His Spirit on all flesh, even the Gentiles. But he did just that - two thousand years ago. What more need be said?
SCOFFERS
2Peter 3:3-4 "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."
Who are these "scoffers?" Prophecy experts identify them as future unbelievers and doubters of the world. But the language they use betrays them as Jews, i.e., "...since the fathers fell asleep..." Who talks that way these days? And "...from the beginning of creation..." The modern unbelievers, and future unbelievers, are evolutionists; they don't believe in Creation. How could they argue about anything from the "beginning of Creation?" These scoffers, who appeared in the last days, were the first century Jews who rejected Christ, and the teaching that He would come again. They referred to their ancestors as "fathers," and didn't deny Creation.
Lord Jesus says to me that the return of the Israel nation and the rebuilding of the temple and Jesus Christ second coming to Jerusalem is hope of faith for many believers of Jesus Christ as a sign to the world that the Living God is there and he did send Jesus and will send him again..... Whether people believe that or not the Lord got a plan and it is being fullfilled......
Lord Jesus says to me that the return of the Israel nation and the rebuilding of the temple and Jesus Christ second coming to Jerusalem is hope of faith for many believers of Jesus Christ as a sign to the world that the Living God is there and he did send Jesus and will send him again..... Whether people believe that or not the Lord got a plan and it is being fullfilled......
It has been fulfilled unless you are still hoping for salvation....
Hebrews 9:28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
So if you think you are saved yet you are still waiting for the second coming then you don't have salvation yet.
Most futurists don't realize this or rationalize it away but it is plain in scripture that in order to possess salvation Jesus must have come back already..
It has been fulfilled unless you are still hoping for salvation....
Hebrews 9:28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
So if you think you are saved yet you are still waiting for the second coming then you don't have salvation yet.
Most futurists don't realize this or rationalize it away but it is plain in scripture that in order to possess salvation Jesus must have come back already..
So do you have salvation or not?
Most believe it is a partial-salvation and that it will fully be completed at the second coming of Christ. The question that must be asked is what event completes our salvation? Christ physically coming back does not complete it, it must be something else since how does Christ's physical presence atone for our salvation, it doesn't. The answer must be the resurrection of the dead which is the event that gives us our new bodies and once and for all defeats sin as it is removed totally from us and we then live eternally with God.
This is the hope of the Church.
The problem with looking for the resurrection of the dead as a physical event where our flesh and blood bodies rise from the grave and are made physically anew is it must complete our salvation. To complete our salvation it must atone for sin in the eyes of God and that is either physical or spiritual. The answer must lie in scripture:
Genesis 2
On the day you eat of the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, you will surely die.
On the day Adam ate the fruit did he physically die? No, he lived on for hundreds of more years, but God did not lie. Adam did die that die, spiritually. If it was Adam's spiritual death to sin that tore him from the presence of God as nothing sinful can dwell in the presence of God. If the first death in scripture is spiritual death, then first resurrection/resurrection from the dead must be spiritual, not physical as death is shown as spiritual.
This spiritual death was must be atoned for in order for us to be back in the presence of God again. Is this not true today. How can salvation be completed when we are physically resurrected when physical death was not what separated us from God.
The problem with a physical resurrection is that if sin is what must be removed and that physical event is what completes it, it forces the question:
Where does sin reside?
If a physical resurrection from the dead is what completes our salvation, I.E. removes sin completely from us, then sin must reside in flesh in blood. You then come into an area that gnostics believe.
If it is spiritual resurrection then sin resides within the spirit and not the flesh which conforms to what scripture states in Genesis.
We cannot have it both ways. If sin must be atoned for, it either resides in flesh and blood and therefore a physical resurrection is necessary or sin resides in spirit and a spiritual resurrection is necessary. That is a question that most do understand the implications lead to.
Is not the spiritual resurrection of the dead what we partake in now with what Christ did for us. If something more is necessary then the question must be discussed further of what sin is not removed through Christ's blood now.
Most believe it is a partial-salvation and that it will fully be completed at the second coming of Christ. The question that must be asked is what event completes our salvation? Christ physically coming back does not complete it, it must be something else since how does Christ's physical presence atone for our salvation, it doesn't. The answer must be the resurrection of the dead which is the event that gives us our new bodies and once and for all defeats sin as it is removed totally from us and we then live eternally with God.
This is the hope of the Church.
The problem with looking for the resurrection of the dead as a physical event where our flesh and blood bodies rise from the grave and are made physically anew is it must complete our salvation. To complete our salvation it must atone for sin in the eyes of God and that is either physical or spiritual. The answer must lie in scripture:
Genesis 2
On the day you eat of the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, you will surely die.
On the day Adam ate the fruit did he physically die? No, he lived on for hundreds of more years, but God did not lie. Adam did die that die, spiritually. If it was Adam's spiritual death to sin that tore him from the presence of God as nothing sinful can dwell in the presence of God. If the first death in scripture is spiritual death, then first resurrection/resurrection from the dead must be spiritual, not physical as death is shown as spiritual.
This spiritual death was must be atoned for in order for us to be back in the presence of God again. Is this not true today. How can salvation be completed when we are physically resurrected when physical death was not what separated us from God.
The problem with a physical resurrection is that if sin is what must be removed and that physical event is what completes it, it forces the question:
Where does sin reside?
If a physical resurrection from the dead is what completes our salvation, I.E. removes sin completely from us, then sin must reside in flesh in blood. You then come into an area that gnostics believe.
If it is spiritual resurrection then sin resides within the spirit and not the flesh which conforms to what scripture states in Genesis.
We cannot have it both ways. If sin must be atoned for, it either resides in flesh and blood and therefore a physical resurrection is necessary or sin resides in spirit and a spiritual resurrection is necessary. That is a question that most do understand the implications lead to.
Is not the spiritual resurrection of the dead what we partake in now with what Christ did for us. If something more is necessary then the question must be discussed further of what sin is not removed through Christ's blood now.
I don't see the correlation between the resurrection and the confirmation of salvation.
Hebrews 10:12-14But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
It seems to me that once the enemies are under him then salvation is whole.. wouldn't you say?
From various scripture we see that salvation from sin is done..
Hebrews 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Hebrews 10:12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,
He had made purification of sins.. for all time. So the sins were gone.. why didn't they fully attain salvation from sins until he came back?
I believe there is a misunderstanding about salvation. There was the salvation from your own guilty conscience regarding sin which doesn't need confirmation IMO. And the salvation from the coming destruction. Jesus taught that one of the signs of the coming destruction would be the persecution and death of some of his followers.
This was a real threat of destruction not some promise of eternal hellfire after death or something.
So the explanation you give doesn't make much sense to me.
I don't see the correlation between the resurrection and the confirmation of salvation.
Hebrews 10:12-14But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
It seems to me that once the enemies are under him then salvation is whole.. wouldn't you say?
From various scripture we see that salvation from sin is done..
Hebrews 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Hebrews 10:12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,
He had made purification of sins.. for all time. So the sins were gone.. why didn't they fully attain salvation from sins until he came back?
I believe there is a misunderstanding about salvation. There was the salvation from your own guilty conscience regarding sin which doesn't need confirmation IMO. And the salvation from the coming destruction. Jesus taught that one of the signs of the coming destruction would be the persecution and death of some of his followers.
This was a real threat of destruction not some promise of eternal hellfire after death or something.
So the explanation you give doesn't make much sense to me.
To make sense of it, we must see further into Hebrews:
Hebrews 9
27Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
If the second appearing(coming) has not occurred yet, then salvation is not complete. What salvation is to come? It was the salvation that was in the form of the resurrection of the dead, which was to occur at the second appearing.
This is where my explanation above comes into play. The second appearing of Christ was the event. Since most believe this has not occurred yet, there is still salvation that was not complete. Hebrews is in harmony with Paul's own words:
Romans 13
11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
If salvation was complete at the cross, why did Paul state that they were nearer to salvation then when they first believed and the day is at hand? Something had not been done yet. It goes back to the Old Testament day of atonement as Hebrews was clear:
Hebrews 9
For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. 25Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
The cross was the final sacrifice, but according to Hebrews it was not the atonement. The Old Covenant high priest had to enter the holy of holies (the very presence of God) to make the atonement. Hebrews was clear that Christ could not enter an earthly sanctuary to make atonement but had to enter heaven itself. This was done after the ascension.
Hebrews then goes further to state that Christ had to appear a second time unto salvation or the completion of it. Christ was doing exactly what the high priest in the Old Covenant did when the atonement was accepted by God. The high priest had to appear before the people "alive" and then Israel rejoiced. Even though the atonement was accepted it was his appearing after that which showed to the people that it was accepted because if he didn't appear it meant the atonement was done wrong and God had killed him. This appearing in the Old Covenant was the same that Christ was to do at the second appearing as stated in Hebrews.
Without this second appearing, how would the world know that God had accepted the atonement in heaven? Hebrews also makes something else clear in regards to man being in the Holy of Holies:
Hebrews 9
7But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance. 8The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still standing.
Hebrews was written after the cross and the ascension and it stated clearly that the way into the most holy place had not been disclosed yet, our presence in the most holy place or God's presence was not made manifest yet.
Why?
Because the first tabernacle was still standing. What was the first tabernacle? It was the temple currently standing in Jerusalem. This was the last sign of the Old Covenant. With it still standing, humanity still thought that God dwelled in houses of stone. With it's destruction was the sign that God no longer dwelled in temples but with His people directly. The Old Covenant was fulfilled in Christ. The temple's destruction was the result of the completion of the atonement. This occurred in 70 A.D. exactly a generation after Jesus said it would happen fulfilling Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13. Jesus also was clear that the Son of man was to appear in the destruction of the temple.
This appearing was the completion of salvation. Go back to Hebrews. If the second appearing has not occurred yet then salvation has not come yet.
You stated that salvation was partially completed. This argument goes into my original explanation of questioning what salvation has not occurred yet. It had to be the salvation that was to occur at the resurrection of the dead. The redemption of our bodies, but again into my original argument that it had to be spiritual, in harmony with Genesis and not physical. It goes back to my original comment that if the resurrection of the dead(fufilling Hebrews 9 "second appearing" which was the event preceding the resurrection of the dead) was physical then
Where does sin reside?
Salvation is the removal of sin. It cannot be both, it must be either spiritual or physical, one or the other. If the resurrection of the dead at the second appearing has not occurred yet, then Hebrews 9 is not fulfilled and the reason for this is because it is a physical resurrection out of the grave for those physically dead and those living on earth at that time in the form of the "rapture".
Again if this is a physical event, then sin resides in flesh and blood. The very fact that any physical resurrection is necessary forces a fact that is only done away with the physical resurrection of our bodies and then sin resides in flesh and blood.
Do you this implication. Salvation is the redemption from sin. Any physical event to accomplish this means sin is a physical manifestation, and not spiritual and therefore not done away with yet because a physical resurrection has not occurred yet.
My entire argument is that sin does not reside in flesh and blood but in spirit and that was accomplished through Christ's atonment for us in the heavenly sanctuary and His appearing in the destruction of the last sign of the Old Covenant in 70 A.D. was the sign that those in Christ were now worthy to be in the presence of God again and that God Himself through the blood of Christ now dwelled in His people and not in houses of stone.
Christ fulfilled the atonement of sin that was caused in Genesis by Adam:
Genesis 2
7But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
God did not lie. Adam did die that day, it was not physical since he lived for hundreds of more years but it was spiritual death. This spiritual death was what needed to be atoned for and Christ did it in His appearance of the destruction of the temple. A physcal resurrection does not harmonize with Genesis 2 when Spritual death was what cast Adam and Eve out of the garden. The spiritual resurrection in Christ is what has those in Christ back in the presence of God our Father as it was in the beginning.
If this resurrection of the dead has not occurred yet, then sin still has a hold on us because Salvation has not been completed.
To make sense of it, we must see further into Hebrews:
Hebrews 9
27Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
If the second appearing(coming) has not occurred yet, then salvation is not complete. What salvation is to come? It was the salvation that was in the form of the resurrection of the dead, which was to occur at the second appearing.
This is where my explanation above comes into play. The second appearing of Christ was the event. Since most believe this has not occurred yet, there is still salvation that was not complete. Hebrews is in harmony with Paul's own words:
Romans 13
11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
If salvation was complete at the cross, why did Paul state that they were nearer to salvation then when they first believed and the day is at hand? Something had not been done yet. It goes back to the Old Testament day of atonement as Hebrews was clear:
Hebrews 9
For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. 25Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
The cross was the final sacrifice, but according to Hebrews it was not the atonement. The Old Covenant high priest had to enter the holy of holies (the very presence of God) to make the atonement. Hebrews was clear that Christ could not enter an earthly sanctuary to make atonement but had to enter heaven itself. This was done after the ascension.
Hebrews then goes further to state that Christ had to appear a second time unto salvation or the completion of it. Christ was doing exactly what the high priest in the Old Covenant did when the atonement was accepted by God. The high priest had to appear before the people "alive" and then Israel rejoiced. Even though the atonement was accepted it was his appearing after that which showed to the people that it was accepted because if he didn't appear it meant the atonement was done wrong and God had killed him. This appearing in the Old Covenant was the same that Christ was to do at the second appearing as stated in Hebrews.
Without this second appearing, how would the world know that God had accepted the atonement in heaven? Hebrews also makes something else clear in regards to man being in the Holy of Holies:
Hebrews 9
7But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance. 8The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still standing.
Hebrews was written after the cross and the ascension and it stated clearly that the way into the most holy place had not been disclosed yet, our presence in the most holy place or God's presence was not made manifest yet.
Why?
Because the first tabernacle was still standing. What was the first tabernacle? It was the temple currently standing in Jerusalem. This was the last sign of the Old Covenant. With it still standing, humanity still thought that God dwelled in houses of stone. With it's destruction was the sign that God no longer dwelled in temples but with His people directly. The Old Covenant was fulfilled in Christ. The temple's destruction was the result of the completion of the atonement. This occurred in 70 A.D. exactly a generation after Jesus said it would happen fulfilling Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13. Jesus also was clear that the Son of man was to appear in the destruction of the temple.
This appearing was the completion of salvation. Go back to Hebrews. If the second appearing has not occurred yet then salvation has not come yet.
You stated that salvation was partially completed. This argument goes into my original explanation of questioning what salvation has not occurred yet. It had to be the salvation that was to occur at the resurrection of the dead. The redemption of our bodies, but again into my original argument that it had to be spiritual, in harmony with Genesis and not physical. It goes back to my original comment that if the resurrection of the dead(fufilling Hebrews 9 "second appearing" which was the event preceding the resurrection of the dead) was physical then
Where does sin reside?
Salvation is the removal of sin. It cannot be both, it must be either spiritual or physical, one or the other. If the resurrection of the dead at the second appearing has not occurred yet, then Hebrews 9 is not fulfilled and the reason for this is because it is a physical resurrection out of the grave for those physically dead and those living on earth at that time in the form of the "rapture".
Again if this is a physical event, then sin resides in flesh and blood. The very fact that any physical resurrection is necessary forces a fact that is only done away with the physical resurrection of our bodies and then sin resides in flesh and blood.
Do you this implication. Salvation is the redemption from sin. Any physical event to accomplish this means sin is a physical manifestation, and not spiritual and therefore not done away with yet because a physical resurrection has not occurred yet.
My entire argument is that sin does not reside in flesh and blood but in spirit and that was accomplished through Christ's atonment for us in the heavenly sanctuary and His appearing in the destruction of the last sign of the Old Covenant in 70 A.D. was the sign that those in Christ were now worthy to be in the presence of God again and that God Himself through the blood of Christ now dwelled in His people and not in houses of stone.
Christ fulfilled the atonement of sin that was caused in Genesis by Adam:
Genesis 2
7But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
God did not lie. Adam did die that day, it was not physical since he lived for hundreds of more years but it was spiritual death. This spiritual death was what needed to be atoned for and Christ did it in His appearance of the destruction of the temple. A physcal resurrection does not harmonize with Genesis 2 when Spritual death was what cast Adam and Eve out of the garden. The spiritual resurrection in Christ is what has those in Christ back in the presence of God our Father as it was in the beginning.
If this resurrection of the dead has not occurred yet, then sin still has a hold on us because Salvation has not been completed.
God Bless.
I don't think we are on the same page but are arguing the same point. The destruction of the temple and the death surrounding it was the last leg of salvation.. to those who overcome.
Good post. Salvation is currently available. The temple is gone and men are saved.
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