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Old 02-22-2010, 06:18 AM
 
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Justin Martyr was born in Flavia Neapolis circa 100 A.D., and converted to Christianity sometime around 130 A.D. A Christian apologist, he taught and defended Christianity in Asia Minor and at Rome. He suffered martyrdom in Rome about 165 A.D.

Justin Martyr's "First Apology" is the oldest (non-New Testament) record we have of how early Christian worship was conducted (Liturgy).

And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things.

Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons.

And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.

This is how Catholics have celebrated the Mass/Eucharist Celebration 7/24 for 2,000 years non stop.
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:36 AM
 
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Justin Martyr was born in Flavia Neapolis circa 100 A.D., and converted to Christianity sometime around 130 A.D.
How is it known that he was a Christian?
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:55 AM
 
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How is it known that he was a Christian?
Through his writings and the writings of others such as Tatian (120-180) who was an early Christian writer and theologiani n the second century.
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Old 02-22-2010, 07:18 AM
 
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Through his writings
Some people think he was not a Christian.

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and the writings of others such as Tatian (120-180) who was an early Christian writer and theologiani n the second century.
And again, some people think he was not a Christian.
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Some people think he was not a Christian.


And again, some people think he was not a Christian.
And who would that be may I ask
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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And who would that be may I ask
If one has to ask, one destroys one's own case. Even if everyone thinks that Justin and Tatian were Christians, it does not mean that they were Christians. One has to be able to prove a) that they were Christians, if one is going to allege that they were Christians; and b) that what they wrote was Christian, or reflected Christianity. Not an easy task, I think.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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If one has to ask, one destroys one's own case. Even if everyone thinks that Justin and Tatian were Christians, it does not mean that they were Christians. One has to be able to prove a) that they were Christians, if one is going to allege that they were Christians; and b) that what they wrote was Christian, or reflected Christianity. Not an easy task, I think.
Can you name one credible source to back up your claim that they might not christians???

And I say "might not be christians" I'm not even asking for any absolute proof that they were not christians.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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Can you name one credible source to back up your claim that they might not christians???
False claim.
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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False claim.
False claim???

In your 4 posts you have said nothing of substance
You have only offered your personal opinion which based on absolutely nothing.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:59 AM
 
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False claim???

In your 4 posts you have said nothing of substance
You have only offered your personal opinion which based on absolutely nothing.
Ted, you should know by now, that they honestly can't look at the Early Church Fathers, and remain in there beliefs. So they just throw out stuff, and try and discredit them.
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