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View Poll Results: A Refined Universalists' Poll
I believe Jesus is God, and I am an Universalist 10 62.50%
I believe Jesus was a man, and I am an Universalist 6 37.50%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-11-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Enow,

I am not going to vote because the options do not cover what I believe.

I do believe that Jesus was born a man - however he was also the Messiah and is the Son of God ---- but I do not believe that he is God,The Son.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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Like Alabama said, we are to know God, who is LOVE.
And know Him for ever (eternal life) too. When it's all said and done, all will be saved. We have His promise on it.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Becase retaining the fear of hell and the belief that our loving God would ever even contemplate doing such a heinous thing in vengeance corrupts your soul and your "state of mind" toward God. It separates you from His love more effectively than unbelief. We are to grow as close as possible to God . . . (in "Love of God and each other") in this life . . . not stagnate at a primitive fear of Him and some heinous eternal torment. THAT is the Good News.
Right because worshipping the TRUE God is worse than worshiping a false god like Buddha, Mohammed, etc. That is Satan's lie.

You are all so tunnel visioned with God's love. Yes, He is love, but He also has a lot of other characteristics that you seem to overlook.

I have no fear of hell. I am not going there. God's will is for no one to be in hell. It's mans choice to either follow the Lord or end up in hell.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:54 PM
 
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Right because worshipping the TRUE God is worse than worshiping a false god like Buddha, Mohammed, etc. That is Satan's lie.

You are all so tunnel visioned with God's love. Yes, He is love, but He also has a lot of other characteristics that you seem to overlook.
The other characteristics are human negative emotions . . . NOT God's. We have them because they are all the result of our human weaknesses and ego . . . God does NOT have those weaknesses or ego problems. God is LOVE.
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I have no fear of hell. I am not going there. God's will is for no one to be in hell. It's mans choice to either follow the Lord or end up in hell.
Fortunately there is no hell to fear or worry about . . . but the consequences of not attuning our Spirits" to "love of God and each other" are probably nothing to ignore. Living an evil life DOES have consequences . . . but eternal torment is not one of them.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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The other characteristics are human negative emotions . . . NOT God's. We have them because they are all the result of our human weaknesses and ego . . . God does NOT have those weaknesses or ego problems. God is LOVE.Fortunately there is no hell to fear or worry about . . . but the consequences of not attuning our Spirits" to "love of God and each other" are probably nothing to ignore. Living an evil life DOES have consequences . . . but eternal torment is not one of them.
God says he is an angry and jealous God or do you think He is lying?

I will agree to disagree with you. I hope you are right.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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It's mans choice to either follow the Lord or end up in hell.
Of course - man's will is the only sovereign governor in existence.

I forgot.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Of course - man's will is the only sovereign governor in existence.

I forgot.
God's will for us is to be like Him. Yet, He allows us to sin. Since He allows us to sin and that's not what HE wants for us, what makes you think he will take us (unbelievers) from hell even if that's not His will for us?

God allows us to live our lives how we choose. If we sin our way to hell, He cannot be blamed.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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God's will for us is to be like Him. Yet, He allows us to sin. Since He allows us to sin and that's not what HE wants for us, what makes you think he will take us (unbelievers) from hell even if that's not His will for us?

God allows us to live our lives how we choose. If we sin our way to hell, He cannot be blamed.
It's a deep rabbit hole for us to contemplate the fall of man, but we must consider that God prevented Adam from returning to the Tree after he was "discovered" - rather, the Lord positioned "Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the Tree of Life".

If the Fall actually took God by surprise, we must give Him credit for immediately implementing a Plan of restitution. This Plan includes raising up sons in His image, who ironically are trained in battle using the very darkness that descended upon man.

Death is the key to life in every view we have of creation.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: New England
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God's will for us is to be like Him. Yet, He allows us to sin. Since He allows us to sin and that's not what HE wants for us, what makes you think he will take us (unbelievers) from hell even if that's not His will for us?

God allows us to live our lives how we choose. If we sin our way to hell, He cannot be blamed.
So you basically believe that God has left us to it ?
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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Right because worshipping the TRUE God is worse than worshiping a false god like Buddha, Mohammed, etc. That is Satan's lie.

You are all so tunnel visioned with God's love. Yes, He is love, but He also has a lot of other characteristics that you seem to overlook.

I have no fear of hell. I am not going there. God's will is for no one to be in hell. It's mans choice to either follow the Lord or end up in hell.
There is no aspect of God which is mutually exclusive of his love. Gods is love, his justice and his righteousness are aspects of his love. There is no righteousness without love, there is no justice outside of love. There is no good without love. One day you will understand this.
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