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NOTE: This topic is not going to be for those who are biblical literalists who are not interested in any other explanations.
There is a problematic story surrounding the biblical character of king Saul. We are told that after a war with the Philistines where the women greeting the returning Israelite soldiers cheered David for killing his 10,000 soldiers including Goliath, Saul became jealous of the young hero.
We are then told that after that point, god send an evil (distressing) spirit to torment Saul and the spirit drove Saul to try to kill David a few times. The picture we have of Saul at this point of his life is a brooding, dark figure seeking to secure his throne from a popular upstart he believes is destined to take the throne away from him.
The ancient writer is clearly ignorant of what appears to be a medical condition and attributes Saul's behavior to a punishment from god (silly when you think of it), but when one reads between the lines, you get the idea that Saul was probably suffering from what we know today as bi-polar disorder/manic depression.
Properly told/understood, the biblical god is removed from the equation, eliminating him from looking like a dastardly character inflicting mental torment upon an individual.
NOTE: This topic is not going to be for those who are biblical literalists who are not interested in any other explanations.
There is a problematic story surrounding the biblical character of king Saul. We are told that after a war with the Philistines where the women greeting the returning Israelite soldiers cheered David for killing his 10,000 soldiers including Goliath, Saul became jealous of the young hero.
We are then told that after that point, god send an evil (distressing) spirit to torment Saul and the spirit drove Saul to try to kill David a few times. The picture we have of Saul at this point of his life is a brooding, dark figure seeking to secure his throne from a popular upstart he believes is destined to take the throne away from him.
The ancient writer is clearly ignorant of what appears to be a medical condition and attributes Saul's behavior to a punishment from god (silly when you think of it), but when one reads between the lines, you get the idea that Saul was probably suffering from what we know today as bi-polar disorder/manic depression.
Properly told/understood, the biblical god is removed from the equation, eliminating him from looking like a dastardly character inflicting mental torment upon an individual.
Yes and they never did abandon that idea of sickness being cause by evil spirits...
In Mark 5 and Luke 8 we see the story of legion "When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid.
Yes and they never did abandon that idea of sickness being cause by evil spirits...
In Mark 5 and Luke 8 we see the story of legion "When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid.
So if what you quote is nothing more than bi-polar. How was it then that he was "healed" that instant? And what of the millions of documented cases of demonic possession? Should we dismiss them as well?
So if what you quote is nothing more than bi-polar. How was it then that he was "healed" that instant? And what of the millions of documented cases of demonic possession? Should we dismiss them as well?
Are you saying that Jesus would not have been able to heal a case of bi-polar instantly?
Real-life case of demon possession documented
Here's one case there's many more. Yes, I do believe Jesus healed instantly and still does. That's not the point. There's more to it than what we see. We try and rationalize everything. Face it science can't back all of what they say. That's why it's theory: An assumption based on limited information or knowledge. i.e. big bang THEORY,...
Real-life case of demon possession documented
Here's one case there's many more. Yes, I do believe Jesus healed instantly and still does. That's not the point. There's more to it than what we see. We try and rationalize everything. Face it science can't back all of what they say. That's why it's theory: An assumption based on limited information or knowledge. i.e. big bang THEORY,...
I don't see more than one case here....
Also in the passages I listed describe the man as being strong and they could not get hold of him. Mental sickness is mental sickness and (most likely) has nothing to do with evil spirits. Even scripture agrees.
The fact that Catholic rituals are invoked here make it that much more unbelievable.
From the same site:
"I've seen things like this before," Catholic exorcist Gabriele Amorth told the Italian newspaper Il Messagero. "Demons occupy a house and appear in electrical goods. ... Let's not forget that Satan and his followers have immense powers."
"With cases of demon behavior," the Vatican expert on possession told the Scotsman, "it is normal for domestic appliances to be involved and for demons [to] make their presence known via electricity."
"With cases of demon behavior," the Vatican expert on possession told the Scotsman, "it is normal for domestic appliances to be involved and for demons [to] make their presence known via electricity."
NOTE: This topic is not going to be for those who are biblical literalists who are not interested in any other explanations.
There is a problematic story surrounding the biblical character of king Saul. We are told that after a war with the Philistines where the women greeting the returning Israelite soldiers cheered David for killing his 10,000 soldiers including Goliath, Saul became jealous of the young hero.
We are then told that after that point, god send an evil (distressing) spirit to torment Saul and the spirit drove Saul to try to kill David a few times. The picture we have of Saul at this point of his life is a brooding, dark figure seeking to secure his throne from a popular upstart he believes is destined to take the throne away from him.
The ancient writer is clearly ignorant of what appears to be a medical condition and attributes Saul's behavior to a punishment from god (silly when you think of it), but when one reads between the lines, you get the idea that Saul was probably suffering from what we know today as bi-polar disorder/manic depression.
Properly told/understood, the biblical god is removed from the equation, eliminating him from looking like a dastardly character inflicting mental torment upon an individual.
Not really, it just gives us a broader spectrum of Gods workings.
You do realize jealousy could have been his problem as well as greed? Not necessarily bi polar but possible.
Not really, it just gives us a broader spectrum of Gods workings.
You do realize jealousy could have been his problem as well as greed? Not necessarily bi polar but possible.
That is a possibility. I just happened to notice his brooding temperament which is a strong symptom of manic depression. The more disturbing issue is that we are told god brought this on him (if we can believe this).
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