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Thank you for clarifying that. It is very disheartening when you say one thing and people then claim that you said quite the opposite. I hope others on this board will follow your lead on this.
LOL you have a point system? Like I care how many "points" you give me. I care what God thinks about me. UR teaches everyone is saved so no you don't need Jesus.
This is the most absurd of the absurd things you believe . . . how do you think the "saving" gets done. It is Jesus' perfect (sinless) human consciousness that was reborn as Spirit after His death that makes the connection (complete identity) with God's consciousness (Holy Spirit) creating a Way for all our human consciousnesses (Spirits) to be with God after we are reborn as Spirit upon our deaths. That has NOTHING to do with how many can use that connection . . . or are "saved" as you believe.
Don't you wish someone would accuse us of placing TOO MUCH faith and trust in the saving power of Jesus? If we are wrong (not!), then the error of our thinking is that we give God way too much credit, and we credit the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus with way too much power, and we are blindly believing that "God is Love" without questioning that, and we love our fellow man way too much by believing they don't deserve to burn forever.
It is the irony of ironies that those of us who have the greatest love for God and strongest belief in His love for us ALL who are called heretics and followers of Satan's lies. While those who promote fear of God and ET or Annihilation . . . attributing EVILS of the first order to God as GOOD . . . consider themselves believers in the true God . . . even though it is Satan's avowed purpose to promote EVIL as GOOD and GOOD as EVIL. This Alice in Wonderland logic should boggle the mind and trouble the soul of all who love God. Who is really following Satan's lies.
This is the most absurd of the absurd things you believe . . . how do you think the "saving" gets done. It is Jesus' perfect (sinless) human consciousness that was reborn as Spirit after His death that makes the connection (complete identity) with God's consciousness (Holy Spirit) creating a Way for all our human consciousnesses (Spirits) to be with God after we are reborn as Spirit upon our deaths. That has NOTHING to do with how many can use that connection . . . or are "saved" as you believe.
Nope, not my belief. If everyone goes to heaven, you really don't need Jesus in your life. You can follow anyone and get there, therefore, no one really needs Him. This is UR's teaching not mine.
Nope, not my belief. If everyone goes to heaven, you really don't need Jesus in your life. You can follow anyone and get there, therefore, no one really needs Him. This is UR's teaching not mine.
That is NOT UR's teaching and you need to stop bearing false witness and misrepresenting it (we call that lying where I come from . . . and you know where liars end up). You can believe that you don't need Jesus (not a good plan) . . . but WE know better.
Now, if you are only here to create strife... kindly go away.
The poster can speak for him or herself.
UR teaches that Jesus is not needed to be the center of anyone's life because all are saved. It's a good thing to trust Him, but really, you don't need to. That is all I meant.
That is NOT UR's teaching and you need to stop bearing false witness and misrepresenting it (we call that lying where I come from . . . and you know where liars end up). You can believe that you don't need Jesus (not a good plan) . . . but WE know better.
Nope, just telling it like it is. You know full well that I believe ALL need Jesus.
Jesus is not needed to be the center of anyone's life because all are saved. That is all I meant.
So what YOU are saying is that IfYOU believed that ALL were saved, then in YOUR eyes, no-one would actually NEED Jesus. Is that what YOU are saying how YOU would see if it all were saved?
THAT is what I was trying to clarify from your words.
And it looks like that IS what you are saying, correct?
(and NO. I am not playing word games. I am clarifying what you are saying. I try to always be absolutely SURE I understand what a person is saying. Clarification, esp. on a message board is extremely important to me.)
This is the most absurd of the absurd things you believe . . . how do you think the "saving" gets done. It is Jesus' perfect (sinless) human consciousness that was reborn as Spirit after His death that makes the connection (complete identity) with God's consciousness (Holy Spirit) creating a Way for all our human consciousnesses (Spirits) to be with God after we are reborn as Spirit upon our deaths. That has NOTHING to do with how many can use that connection . . . or are "saved" as you believe.
I completely understand this, but you can't deny that UR teaches that people don't have to believe in Him (therefore not needed in their life) to get to heaven.
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