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Huh? Repentance is the work we do, in order to justify being worthy of the Blood of the Lamb. Without repentance, there is NO remission of sin. God doesn't give us repentance, He give us Faith to perseverse. The strength we need to overcome.
Show me this verse please. Repentance is the work we do, not God.
Yes it is, but only by repenting. You action merits you His action. Was you found worthy to partake of it?
Yes I did.
Romans 2 verse 4
It's God that seeks,finds,chooses and reveals Himself to man and not the otherway round.
I just do not understand this kind of statement . First off it sounds so self righteous it's untrue, it very much sounds like you want vengeance upon all those who are not like you and worse still your testimony of the nature and character of God is worse than the most dispicable human that ever lived.
It's as if you have never been anything but some glorious righteous saint that has never known the great mercy ,grace and love that He extended to you at your worst and still never experience it even to this day,because if you did regardless of whether you believe ET or UR these kind of statements of yours you would never utter
14David said to Gad, “I am in deep distress. Let us fall into the hands of the Lord, for his mercy is great; but do not let me fall into the hands of men.”
What's to understand? Either you believe God's Word or you don't. So typical of UR's to turn the Word of God into a personal attack. There's nothing Christian about that.
What's to understand? Either you believe God's Word or you don't. So typical of UR's to turn the Word of God into a personal attack. There's nothing Christian about that.
What you believe is not God , no personal attack on you but what you believe.
AND GOD SAID Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it was thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
The wages of SIN is complete death of the spirit, body and soul.
For GOD the Creator is MERCIFUL as he is JUST
The wages of sin is death.......the first death. That's when our bodies turn into dust. Our bodies will be resurrected and those who did not accept Jesus as Savior will experience the second death, which is eternal hell.
What you believe is not God , no personal attack on you but what you believe.
What I believe is most certainly of God and His Word......you just choose to ignore the parts of the Bible that you don't like. And it most certainly was a personal attack, as it always is when someone disagrees with you. You told me that I am seeking vengeance and that could not be further from the truth. The TRUTH is in God's Word but you can't see it because you have been blinded by a new age lie.
This is wrong, and you know it. Read Romans 8 closely, in whatever translation you want.
IF the Spirit of Christ be in you. I want you to count the number of times the word "if" is used.
God our Father, Jesus Christ His Son and 'sin' do not mix, ever. Darkness doesn't exist in the Light. Not now, not ever. It is the reason Adam was expelled out of Eden, and the reason Jesus came to redeem us.
This is why we must be created 'new'. Because of the darkness of our hearts, and the sin which seperates us from God.
The way the UR teach, is that darkness and Light can coexist, IN the presense of God. Right? If a person doesn't repent, which by the way is the first thing John, Jesus, and the Apostles all taught, then how can they see the Light, after death?
None of those scripures dispute the fact that everyone gets destroyed. And no UR doesn't teach that darkness and light can coexist. At least none that I know of.
Huh? Repentance is the work we do, in order to justify being worthy of the Blood of the Lamb. Without repentance, there is NO remission of sin. God doesn't give us repentance, He give us Faith to perseverse. The strength we need to overcome.
Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Who is the giver of repentance again?
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
But let's put that aside. You said that God gives us Faith. So if someone doesn't have Faith then it is because God didn't give them Faith, correct?
It's God that seeks,finds,chooses and reveals Himself to man and not the otherway round.
That verse actually supports my case, not yours.
Rom 2:4
Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
It is the 'kindness' that God has shown us, that LEADS us to repent. It is the cause for us to act. But we must act. Otherwise, NEXT VERSE:
But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation.
So sorry Pcamps. It is us who must persevere in doing good. It is us who must repent and change our ways. It is us who must seek Him. Because if we do not? It is written as plain as plain can be.
Does the Word not teach us to strive to win the race? To be persistent, to be aware of backsliding . . . . . repentance is work we must do, HOTinAZ is correct in his explanations.
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