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Old 04-01-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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Regarding the article "Vatican denies abuse is linked to celibacy rule," St. Paul himself encouraged that when possible, the single person should strive to remain single for the sake of serving the Lord without reservation

While celibacy might mean that one needs to master certain natural urges, it is not the cause of deviant desires.

Letters: Celibacy rule not the issue; better screening of priests is - Opinion - USATODAY.com (http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/04/letters-celibacy-rule-not-the-issue-better-screening-of-priests-is-.html?loc=interstitialskip - broken link)
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:36 AM
 
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Regarding the article "Vatican denies abuse is linked to celibacy rule," St. Paul himself encouraged that when possible, the single person should strive to remain single for the sake of serving the Lord without reservation
Paul wrote that a leader 'must be above reproach, the husband of just one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not liable to get drunk, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.' 'He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?'

Many people ask, "Since when did the Vatican take much note of Paul, about anything?"
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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Default A simple, functional solution.

Seems to me the Church should honestly consider the centuries of history of sexual misconduct by so very many of it's priests, and then allow them to marry. Imagine an unmarried, inexperienced young man , your local priest, giving advice to young married couples who are having "marital problems". Funny, huh? The truly blind (or sexually deviant...) leading the troubled....

There are certain religious orders and organizations that do allow marriage, as I recall. Anyone know the details?

Sure would put an end to this endless travesty. Lonely men obediently disregarding their natural biological and biochemical urges. A prescription for disaster and, not to put too fine a point on it; the consequences are now a matter of history. God knows what's happened in the historical past, when we didn't have global communications.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:27 AM
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Paul wrote that a leader 'must be above reproach, the husband of just one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not liable to get drunk, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.' 'He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?'

Many people ask, "Since when did the Vatican take much note of Paul, about anything?"
Only the under-informed are asking.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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While celibacy is not the direct reason, it is a contributing factor for several reasons.
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Old 04-04-2010, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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The real problem here is that the Catholic Church has created a "hiding place" for men with sexual issues. This is why there are so many gay priests - because young men feel that it's better for them to become priests, try to ignore their homosexuality, and not "dishonor" their families. Other men know they have an attraction to children, so rather than seek help, they become a priest to hide from their dysfunction. Of course, hiding from the issue of sexual dysfunction doesn't make it go away, as we see with too many priests. If you allowed priests to marry, then it's no longer a hiding place and the issue would subside.
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Old 04-05-2010, 12:35 AM
 
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A pedaphile is a pedaphile is a pedaphile. It has NOTHING to do with the celibacy rule. We had a married deacon who molested boys! He is in jail now!
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