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Old 06-03-2010, 07:23 PM
 
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It is absolutely impossible to validate as true the doctrinal presupposition that the apostle John wrote anything, based solely upon the plain text of scripture. The book of Acts was most certainly redacted to accommodate a multifaceted fish story called "polycarp." While the alleged history of this 'Polycarp' may have been documented to corroborate circumstantial evidence which has the mere appearance of overwhelming support for a doctrinal tradition of men, a fish story is still a lie... especially when it's THIS BIG!!!
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Little Elm, TX
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All this focus on who the writer is...

What about Who it's about???!!
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Pike Road, Alabama
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Like all of the other books in the bible....we have NO CLUE who actually wrote what nor do we know when they were written....all we have is PURE SPECULATION.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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Unless one believes that who it's about is risen from the dead, talking about it is pointless. While focusing ones attention upon authorship of five New Testament books that have the mere appearance of the same hand may seem secondary in light of why Jesus' beloved disciple put his hand with pen, and ink to paper in the first place...(John) 20:31...if one is predisposed to doctrinal presuppositions before they even approach the plain text, one may be guilty of knowingly or unwittingly straining out Jesus' beloved disciple, and swallowing an apostle. Case in point...new believers in Christ are almost always directed to begin their new walk of faith by reading "The Gospel According to John," the very title being contrary to what one first believed...JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD...when they heard the report. , and friends'...when you first heard the good news of Jesus Christ, God's only begotten Son; how that he was delivered into the hands of sinful men, and was crucified, and was buried, and the third day rose again from the dead, you rejoiced in the knowledge of what God so graciously wrought for you, a sinner...and you believed! This new found belief in Christ Resurrected is a sign...for belief in Christ Resurrected is the greatest measure by which the greatest degree of scriptural certainty might be achieved in discerning the true identity of him whose testimony we know by faith is true, which without, Jesus' beloved disciple could not have had any good purpose to testify thereby, much less whereby to write. If therefore you follow the apostle John to "the heart of Jesus" (the Fourth Gospel), you will be like a certain man who drank deep of the sincere milk of the Word of Life, but because of unbelief, the Word soured in his stomach, and he vomited.
"A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump." Galatians 5:9 KJV.
The veracity of this statement is validated by the scriptural fact that the apostle John can not possibly be, no not even remotely, "that other disciple which came first to the sepulchre, and saw, and believed" (that Jesus was risen from the dead) @ the advent of (John) 20:8 KJV, because the apostle John is counted as one of "the eleven" (apostles) @ Mark 16:14 KJV whom Jesus rebuked for unbelief in the testimony of them which saw him after he was risen from the dead. If from this point one moves forward to the book of Revelation still believing that the apostle John is the author of the Fourth Gospel, then ones approach to the plain text of The Revelation of Jesus Christ will be tainted by reason of two conflicting opinions: belief in what one at first, only heard...JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD...and unbelief in what the apostle John also at first, only heard...JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD. This scriptural caveat is compounded by the incongruity of presupposing that that which was proclaimed to Israel..."The Revelation of Jesus Christ" (the spiritual death and resurrection of God's only begotten Son)... came to pass after the physically manifested fact as described in The Gospel Testimony of Jesus' beloved disciple, namely Lazarus of Bethany. If by now you still think focusing your attention on authorship is not necessary, take care not to follow a lie into a desert of scriptural uncertainty where you can easily get caught up faltering between two opinions. The Blessings of The Eternal give you joy...
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