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Old 04-16-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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Hi Eusebius,

Can you explain what Paul meant in Romans?
Concerning what?

Concerning what you brought up earlier concerning this:

Romans 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. ?

World here is kosmos.
Earth, as you point out is ge and is often translated "land" and "earth" dependent upon the surrounding scriptures in the Concordant Literal Version.

Revelation 16:18-19 CLV (18) And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred. And a great earthquake occurred, such as did not occur since mankind came to be on the earth; of such proportions was the quake and so great." (19) And the great city came to be divided into three parts; and the cities of the nations fall. And Babylon the great is brought to remembrance in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fury of His indignation."

Now then, the verse 18 above could have been translated "land" but it would not really change the meaning that much since in verse 19 you have "cities of the nations" and we know nations are spread out over the earth.

Like I said before, every eon in the Bible is begun after a world-wide catastrophe.
Genesis 1:1-1:2 has the earth receiving a catastrophic event. "The earth became chaos and vacant."
Genesis 1:2 to the flood of Genesis 7 is an eon, the Naohic flood being another world-wide catastrophic event.
Genesis 7 to the present is an eon which will end in Revelation 16:18 when the earth is destroyed by a great earthquake.
From Revelation 16 to Revelation 21 is the 1000 year eon. Then the earth is destroyed by fire and the new earth comes with a new eon.

So you see, every eon ends with an global earth shattering event and a new eon comes after.
Since the next eon, the 1000 year eon is next to come, some global shattering event must occur prior to that and that event is the global earthquake.

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Old 04-16-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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Like I said before, every eon in the Bible is begun after a world-wide catastrophe.
Genesis 1:1-1:2 has the earth receiving a catastrophic event. "The earth became chaos and vacant."
Genesis 1:2 to the flood of Genesis 7 is an eon, the Naohic flood being another world-wide catastrophic event.
Genesis 7 to the present is an eon which will end in Revelation 16:18 when the earth is destroyed by a great earthquake.
From Revelation 16 to Revelation 21 is the 1000 year eon. Then the earth is destroyed by fire and the new earth comes with a new eon.

So you see, every eon ends with an global earth shattering event and a new eon comes after.
Since the next eon, the 1000 year eon is next to come, some global shattering event must occur prior to that and that event is the global earthquake.
So Jesus' death on the cross and subsequent ministry of the apostles was not a global earth shattering event?

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Old 04-16-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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So Jesus' death on the cross and subsequent ministry of the apostles was not a global earth shattering event?

....I was wondering the same thing..........what about the elimination of the temple ordinaces, and the complete eradication of the historical geneological record of the twelve tribes and the priest order....
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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So Jesus' death on the cross and subsequent ministry of the apostles was not a global earth shattering event?

Obviously not.
It was not an earthquake. The cities of the nations did not fall. The great city was not divided into three parts. Christ did not come back to set up the thousand year reign.

Remember, every eon ends with an earth shattering event which affects the material physical world in some catastrophic way. Jesus' death on the cross did not do that.

Try again, please.
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:42 AM
 
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Eusebius,

Your views seek the flesh.
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:28 PM
 
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Eusebius,

Your views seek the flesh.

No, they are spiritual for the spirit seeketh such to worship Him in spirit and in truth.

The truth is that there has been no earth shattering earthquake yet in which the cities of the nations have fallen and the great city has not been split into three parts. Therefore the truth is that since Christ returns to set up the millennial kingdom after that event He has therefore not done so yet. That's the truth.
And, "without faith it is impossible to please God." Since God says these things must occur first, and we know they haven't, it takes faith to believe God they haven't. So, not, my views don't seek the flesh but the spirit.

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Old 04-17-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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....I was wondering the same thing..........what about the elimination of the temple ordinaces, and the complete eradication of the historical geneological record of the twelve tribes and the priest order....
And don't forget, Judas hung himself, Mary ran, Peter ran, and the two to Emmaus walked.
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