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Old 04-12-2010, 12:14 PM
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I was just wondering what the forum's protestant population's opinion is on the possibility for salvation for Catholics. Please explain your yes or no answer.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:26 PM
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I was just wondering what the forum's protestant population's opinion is on the possibility for salvation for Catholics. Please explain your yes or no answer.
Doesn't the Catholic church teach that Jesus died for our sins? If any person sincerely believes & accepts that, they will spend eternity with Jesus.

John 6

29Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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I was just wondering what the forum's protestant population's opinion is on the possibility for salvation for Catholics. Please explain your yes or no answer.
The correct usage is 'Protestant', not 'protestant'. Protestantism is not, as many Catholics seem to prefer to believe (or prefer to be believed), merely a reaction, a reaction by upstarts, against a superior, pre-existing religion. The word means 'proclaiming the gospel', and would have perfect validity if the RCC did not exist.

The only sort of 'Protestants' who truly believe in the Protestant tenets of sola fide, sola Scriptura and the exclusive priesthood of all believers is evangelical. 'High church' belief and liberalism (including universalism) cannot be accounted Protestant (and most of their adherents are usually quick to affirm that).

Evangelicals long said, before recent times, that some Catholics, particularly in poorer countries, will likely be accepted by God because they are in fear of him, and would accept the gospel if they were to hear it. Indeed, that was the missioner's experience, that, in any given situation, always some Catholics would eagerly accept the gospel on hearing it. However, modern Catholics in Western countries seem to be less in fear of God, and are less likely to accept the gospel- though there are still converts. Every evangelical congregation seems to contain at least one ex-Catholic.

Essentially, the position of Catholics, as far as evangelicals are concerned, differs not at all from that of any unbeliever. There is the ultimate 'cliff-edge' separating the saints and all others, no matter what they believe or do.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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What do you mean by a "good Catholic?" Jesus and the Gospel teach us that there are no good people; only God is good. The only way anyone, Catholic or not, can enter into the kingdom of Heaven is to believe in and trust in Jesus as the only sacrifice for their sins. "Good" people who don't know Jesus do not enter into Heaven if they die without Him.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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The only sort of 'Protestants' who truly believe in the Protestant tenets of sola fide, sola Scriptura and the exclusive priesthood of all believers is evangelical. '"

But evangelical Christianity is arguably the dominant form of global Protestant Christianity today, and is growing even more than in the past globally. The public face of today's Christianity is mostly evangelical.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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The only sort of 'Protestants' who truly believe in the Protestant tenets of sola fide, sola Scriptura and the exclusive priesthood of all believers is evangelical. '"

But evangelical Christianity is arguably the dominant form of global Protestant Christianity today, and is growing even more than in the past globally. The public face of today's Christianity is mostly evangelical.
I used the word 'evangelical' in the traditional sense- not in the American sense, which is a misnomer. If one mentally takes the USA out of the whole equation, and many outside the USA do just that, one perhaps could say that evangelicalism is the dominant form of Christianity today. So many evangelists are actually legalists, and legalism is just as deadly as atheism.
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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I was just wondering what the forum's protestant population's opinion is on the possibility for salvation for Catholics. Please explain your yes or no answer.
Don't forget us "bad" Catholics

We're itchin to know too.
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:07 PM
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Don't forget us "bad" Catholics

We're itchin to know too.
Good one Oak. But you probably know the answer to that one. The point for adding the word "good" was to shorten the phrase "those who follow Catholic doctrines and traditions to the letter".
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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Good one Oak. But you probably know that answer to that one.
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Please listen those trapped in the RCC. I am posting this information out of love so that you may realize the apostasy of the RCC and that there is salvation in the Biblical Jesus. Come out from among her and be saved. Jesus loves you and He wants to set you free from the bondage of Rome.

A devout Catholic faithful to the dogma of Rome cannot be a born again Christian bound for heaven as Rome's gospel is not the same as the Biblical gospel. Rome placed anethema on the Sole Fide and thus places a curse on themselves by placing a curse on the Gospel, for we are justified by faith alone by the grace of God alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

From R.C. Sproul: R.C. SPROUL: ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CONDEMNED THE GOSPEL : Apprising Ministries

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The Roman Catholic Church condemns “sola fide! (L.)” Now if, please understand this, if “sola fide (L.)” is the gospel, then the Roman Catholic Church has condemned the gospel of Jesus Christ. Now, nobody who went to the Council of Trent, as a delegate, went there with the intention of condemning the gospel. The theologians of Rome really believed that they were defending the gospel and that the Protestants had in fact committed apostasy. And I admire the Church, the Roman communion of the 16th century for at least understanding what apparently people don’t understand today, and that is what is at stake here. That they understood that somebody is under the anathema of God! And we can be as nice, and as pleasant, and as gentle, and as loving, and as charitable, and tolerant as we can possibly be, but it’s not going to change that folks. Somebody is preaching a different gospel! And when Rome condemned the Protestant declaration of “Justification by faith alone” I believe, Rome, when placing the anathema on “sola fide (L.),” placed the anathema of God upon themselves. I agree with his [John MacArthur] assessment, that the institution [Roman Catholic Church] is apostate!
From gotquestions: Why is Sola fide important?

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Sola fide which means ‘faith alone’ is important because it is one of the distinguishing characteristics or key points that separate the true biblical Gospel from false gospels. At stake is the very Gospel itself and it is therefore a matter of eternal life or death. Getting the Gospel right is of such importance that the Apostle Paul would write in Galatians 1:9: “As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” Paul was addressing the same question that Sola fide addresses—on what basis is man declared by God to be justified? Is it by faith alone or by faith combined with works? Paul makes it clear in Galatians and Romans that man is “justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law” (Galatians 2:16) and the rest of the Bible concurs.
Here are 2 excellent videos on the catholic pathway of salvation versus the biblical pathway to salvation. Not the best video quality but they are a must for everyone:

YouTube - Catholicism vs Christianity By Mike Gendron


YouTube - Tell Catholics the Truth by Mike Gendron
And the following is everything you need to know about the false doctrines and gospel of the RCC - From CARM:Roman Catholicism | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

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