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Old 04-16-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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18-21 especially?
Yeah, the wise will not enter Heaven. That wise man who built built his house upon a rock is going to be in for a big surprise come judgment day! And those five wise virgins who kept enough oil for their lamps, too! That's scary stuff. All this time, I've been thinking wisdom was a good thing.

 
Old 04-16-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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So what about the thief (#6. nor thieves) who hung next to Christ on the cross, or the woman taken in adultery (#3. nor adulterers). Your criteria doesn't seem to allow for repentence. I'm glad God's does.
They believed.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 10:53 PM
 
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I just thought of something cool...What if there is a, C-D forum, in the afterlife. Where all the ,Real Christians(the ones in Heaven) will be able to have a ,"which is better eternal life vs. eternal damnation poll", with all of the rest of civilization(the Hellhounds)...just by shear numbers us ,Heathens, gonna clean up shop on that one...
 
Old 04-16-2010, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Katzpur
  1. Nice try.........it's not my criteria.
  2. Nice try.........but justifying your attempt to prove yourself worthy isn't the topic of this OP. It's the failure of decieved
Actually, it's just what the Bible says, twin. Jesus did tell the repentant thief that He'd be with him in paradise, and He did tell the woman who was caught in adultery than He did not condemn her. And for your information, I said nothing at all about my own worthiness. How you extrapolated that from my comments is beyond me.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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They believed.
Tell it to twin.spin, not me. He simply listed off a bunch of sins and said that people who are guilty of them will not be going to Heaven.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 10:59 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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I'm a bit cowardly myself, to tell you the truth. Oh, dear.
synonyms of cowardly adjective: (Websters)

pusillanimous, craven, dastardly

<a cowardly failure to stand up for principle>

. dastardly often implies behavior that is both cowardly and treacherous or skulking or outrageous
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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You're screwed! On the other hand, at least you're honest. Maybe it'll be a wash.
Hmmm.....
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:11 PM
 
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They believed.
I see. Okay, so belief cancels out theft and adultery. That's good to know. I'll file that one away for later.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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synonyms of cowardly adjective: (Websters)

pusillanimous, craven, dastardly

<a cowardly failure to stand up for principle>

. dastardly often implies behavior that is both cowardly and treacherous or skulking or outrageous
Well, I haven't been doing any skulking lately, that I know of.

I hope I haven't been pusillanimous. I'm gonna have to find a dictionary. It
does sound rather gross, though, so I hope I don't have that problem.
 
Old 04-16-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Actually, it's just what the Bible says, twin. Jesus did tell the repentant thief that He'd be with him in paradise, and He did tell the woman who was caught in adultery than He did not condemn her. And for your information, I said nothing at all about my own worthiness. How you extrapolated that from my comments is beyond me.
I extrapolated that from the many previous conversations we've had.

sciotamicks very simply and correctly stated why these people were not part of God's list. They didn't have to prove themself worthy or, they only trusted in God's free mercy and forgiveness.

God's forgiveness isn't conditional. This list of God's are the conditions that make the damned....damned.

If you're going be damned it's this list, however
if you're going to be saved it's:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life

John 6:47
I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life.

John 6:29
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
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