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(My wife actually wanted a pet piglet, until I showed that it would grow into a monster the size of a small horse)
Ha! Me too! Having been raised on a farm and had feeder pigs for a while, I can tell ya those sows can get meeeeaaaan too! I wouldn't want all those pounds of pork comin' at me, I tell ya!
My response is better late than never, I guess ...
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I have a question for the atheist...
Keep in mind that all atheists have in common is a lack of beliefs in gods. You'll get lots of different answers on this from different atheists, so don't take what I say as gospel (so to speak).
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Is there anything at all that would qualify in your mind as god-like? For example, energy is neither created nor destroyed... could energy qualify as god? I always wondered if some of you just don't like the word god as it implies religion....
If you're asking if many atheists have what has been known as a "god shaped hole" in their lives in general I'd say no. There's not some yearning to fill a void - gods are just something someone else believes in that you really don't think about unless one of those believers makes a fuss about it.
There are lots of things in the world that are impressive, awe inspiring, whatever, but there's no real motivation to worship them, pray to them for guidance or anything like that. Just an appreciation that they're interesting.
But there are religious people who don't believe in gods (or think they are irrelevant) so it's not like people are just avoiding gods to keep out of religions. Along the same lines, I think you'll find atheists are more likely to be that way because they have no reason to include a god, not that they have motivation to keep gods out - if that makes any sense.
KCfromNC, I wonder if we put all atheists in the departure from Egypt by Moses, through the Red Sea and kept miraculously alive for 40 years in the Sinai desert (about a million people) and they saw all the miracles of the God of Israel, if they would still be atheists?
I'm not asking if they believe it to be a true story or not but just asking on the basis that it is a true story (which I believe it is).
I just can't tell you how much your words have made my heart smile. What a beautiful, heartfelt post. And the bold... I can feel what you wrote, all the way down to my bones. I mean that. Thank you, Ilene for sharing your journeying with us.
I love you much,
sparrow
P.S. Maybe you are the Wandering Warrior Princess. Has a nice ring to it.
Thanks Sparrow!! As I was writing it I had no idea what I was going to say so it definitely came from the heart.
Yes! "wandering warrior princess" sounds even better!
Do you believe that all people will be perfect in heaven or is it acheivable here on earth. By perfect I mean complete not flawless. IOW do you think God's work is only complete after one dies?
I believe we can be "perfect in Christ" here on earth. When we enter into a covenant relationship with Him (I believe this happens at baptism), we become a new creature, not perfect on our own, but perfect through Him. It's as if someone who was completely broke and in debt up to his eyeballs set up a joint bank account with someone who had literally unlimited funds. As a result of that joint account, the person who went into it poor would now have all the wealth he could ever want or need. It wouldn't have it on his own, but through the relationship with his co-account owner. I see our being able to achieve perfection here on earth as being kind of like that. Once we are in Heaven, I think it's possible to achieve perfection on our own, but I don't think everybody will do so. Everyone doesn't have the desire to put forth the effort. And it will take effort. Nothing worth having doesn't take effort.
Ilene ----- I agree with this totally, and BTW I like the "new" seeking, trying to understand 'wandering' princess My heart is filled with joy for you.
Thanks Meerkat!! I've got a whole lot more "wandering" to do!!
I'm going to start a thread that I hope will be different from every other thread on the Christianity forum. The purpose of this thread will be to educate and inform.
Katzpur,
I have tried threads like this before and they always turn out poorly. I have only read through the 1st page and will come back later to read more. I do hope it has remained what you had hoped for.
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Here's a thought: They (pets, my add) may not have the ability to accept Christ, but they don't have the ability to sin either.
I have a three year old boxer whom I'm pretty sure has the ability to sin.
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My heart is filled with joy for you.
