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Old 04-21-2010, 11:06 PM
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There are many people, some of whom are true Christians and others merely professing Christians but who are in reality unsaved, and there are those who reject the 'label' of Christianity but who erroneously think they know God, who attempt to pit one passage of Scripture against another passage in order to ignore and reject a point of doctrine, or a principle that they don't like.

One such example is that of using 1 John 2:27 to nullify and disregard Ephesians 4:11-16.

There are a many people who are blatantly hostile toward traditional Christianity and who reject the fact that God has instituted a system in which the believer is to learn the word of God under the teaching ministry of a qualified pastor/teacher. And some have used 1 John 2:27 in an effort to say that the believer can learn the word of God entirely on their own because the Holy Spirit will make everything understandable to them.

It is true that the Holy Spirit is the true mentor and is responsible for making spiritual phenomenon understandable to the believer. But it is the Holy Spirit Himself who gives certain men the gift of pastor/teacher for the purpose of edifying the body of Christ. God's system with regard to spiritual advancement in the Christian life involves the believer placing himself under the authority of a pastor/teacher to whom God has assigned a portion of His sheep for the purpose of the edification of the body of Christ.

Now with regard to 1 John 2:27, the passage reads as follows...

'And as for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His annointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.'

The passage is not saying that you don't need a pastor. The passage from verse 18 through verse 27 is a warning to be on guard against apostate teachers. I'm going to quote from that section of 'The People's New Testament Commentary' which summarizes this section of 1 John chapter 2.

2:26 These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. All these words about Anti-Christ, all in 1 John 2:18-29 is to put them on their guard against false teachers.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you; but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

2:27 But the anointing which ye have received, abideth in you. See 1 Jo 2:20. This anointing is spoken of because it furnishes them a means of guarding against the false teachers and seducers. The passage does not teach a continous revelation, or that we are to be led by the inner light, but that God has given us means of knowing whether men speak the truth.

Ye need not that any man should teach you. There is another fountain of knowledge so that you do not need the aid of these opposing teachers.

As the same anointing teacheth you of all things. The Holy Spirit bestowed upon you. It was the promise of Christ that the Spirit should guide you into all the truth (Joh 16:13). The Holy Spirit was thus imparted to the apostles and through them spiritual gifts were imparted everywhere in the early church. Among these gifts were wisdom, knowledge, prophecy, and discerning of spirits. These extraordinary gifts continued until the Holy Spirit had prepared the New Testament to guide the church (1 Cor. 13:8). Now we have the Word of God which the Holy Spirit has given us and the presence of the Spirit with us to fit us for understanding. The word and the unction still teach us all things.

1 John 2 People's New Testament

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain i See commentary

The passage is a warning to be on guard against being led astray by apostates. It is not an endorsement of foregoing the teaching ministry of a pastor who was sovereignly bestowed with the divinely instituted gift of pastor/teacher.

Ephesians 4:11-16 is the divinely instituted system for the edification of the church.

'And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers. 12) for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13) until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fulness of Christ. 14) As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves, and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15) but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him, who is the head, even Christ, 16) from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by that which every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.'

This then, is the divinely designated system by which the edification of the true church-the body of Christ occurs, and the purpose for which the gift of pastor/teacher exists.

By what justification then do any who belong to the body of Christ dare to disregard it?

The local church has always had to guard against apostasy which Satan introduces only all too eagerly into it for the purpose of neutralizing the believers effectivness in the spiritual warfare into which he was enlisted when he believed in Jesus Christ for salvation. And the fact that many pastors aren't worth a lick of salt in no way annuls the principle of the pastor/teacher feeding the flock for the edification of the body of Christ. In every generation of the church-age, God has seen to it that there are qualified pastors who are equipped for the responsibility and the task of feeding the sheep.

Therefore, those Christians who forego the responsibility of submitting themselves to sound doctrinal teaching under a prepared pastor/teacher do so to the detriment of their own spiritual life.

Nothing that has been said here will mean anything to those who reject traditional Christianity, but for those who value truth, you would do well to seek out a prepared pastor for your own spiritual edification.
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Old 04-22-2010, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike555 View Post
you would do well to seek out a prepared pastor for your own spiritual edification.
Shepherds seek out the sheep - not the other way around...
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:36 AM
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Nice post Mike555.
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:52 AM
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Christianity is not Jesus and rejecting Christianity will have no bearing upon ones soul or standing with God in any form.
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