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If you want to stick to OT, then that's your choice. I am Christian and I believe what the NT says about Christ emptying Hades, and taking the dead with him to heaven and that believers go directly to heaven when they die.
What verse are you interpreting to mean "Christ emptied Hades"? What verse shows that he took the dead with him to heaven?
If you want to stick to OT, then that's your choice. I am Christian and I believe what the NT says about Christ emptying Hades, and taking the dead with him to heaven and that believers go directly to heaven when they die.
The Bible doesn't say Christ emptied Hades.
Neither does the Bible say Christ took the dead with Him to heaven.
Peter said AFTER Christ ascended into heaven that David did not ascend into heaven.
Wow, Lego you are going through an awful lot of twisting and spinning to prove that hell doesn't exist.
I would like to know what scripture states that Christ has emptied Hades and taken the souls which were in Hades with him to heaven also ... Will you supply the verses please?
What verse are you interpreting to mean "Christ emptied Hades"? What verse shows that he took the dead with him to heaven?
Sorry, I meant to say he emptied the good side of Hades, and took the souls of the believers with him. I have already provided the verse here several times. The souls of unbelievers are still in the bad side of hades.
Sorry, I meant to say he emptied the good side of Hades, and took the souls of the believers with him. I have already provided the verse here several times. The souls of unbelievers are still in the bad side of hades.
Okay, then where does it say in scripture God has "emptied the good side of Hades" and "took the souls of believers with him"?
Wow, Lego you are going through an awful lot of twisting and spinning to prove that hell doesn't exist.
It is the topic of this thread.
What you call "twisting and spinning" is simply showing what scripture says, and simply showing how the mainstream doctrine of "hell" falls. To me this would seem to be a rather important thing to let people know about, especially considering the pain and suffering many people go through now because they believe there is a literal place of endless torment. Perhaps it is not important to you to understand this. If you want to contribute to the thread, maybe you would actually address the posts instead of throwing out jabs about "twisting and spinning".
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Okay, then where does it say in scripture God has "emptied the good side of Hades" and "took the souls of believers with him"?
I found it on page 8, I believe Finn is referring to Eph 4:8-10:
Finn_Jarber said this: When Christ died on the cross he went to paradise aka good side of Hades aka Abrahams bosom, and led the righteous dead out of that place.
Ephesians 4:8-10 This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." (What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions ? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)
He took that side of Hades with him to heaven, and left the bad side where is it.
What you call "twisting and spinning" is simply showing what scripture says, and simply showing how the mainstream doctrine of "hell" falls.
No, when you use the reasoning which you used earlier, it is called 'twisting the truth'. I picked up on it a long time ago, and you guys still use it.
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