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Old 05-13-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Yes. But I at this time do not believe I have any reason to just because you speak.
Ok, then why are you talking to me? Why are you on here at all? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to understand.

 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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Ok, then why are you talking to me? Why are you on here at all? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to understand.
I know this is a conversation between you and Phazelwood, but I'm just curious if you're on here because you're considering changing your beliefs. If not, I don't know why you would ask that.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:36 PM
 
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We need to be exegetes when reading the Bible. It doesn't matter if he thinks or I think a verse means something, there only is one meaning and that is the authors.
Your statement in and of itself has no merit in demonstrating that your correct.
You obfuscate that fact by making an assumption that I have not critically analyzed scripture in order to make conclusions.

I have, and it is why many of your comments towards me are simply slanderous in nature.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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Ok, then why are you talking to me? Why are you on here at all? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to understand.

I talk, because I like conversation, discussion and challenges, sometimes I do encounter things to consider.


Personal comments about what I understand or the nature of why I believe are not conversation, it is not discussion and in no way challenging.

This will not prevent me from continuing to endeavor in seeking, searching, learning, perhaps I may learn from you, perhaps I won't, it is the way things are.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I know this is a conversation between you and Phazelwood, but I'm just curious if you're on here because you're considering changing your beliefs. If not, I don't know why you would ask that.
BHFT, I definitely am open to changing my beliefs! A few months ago, I didn't have a stance on OSAS and now I don't believe that is true. I would never say that I know everything and I won't change. I continue to research on many topics discussed. I would never say that I know everything for that would be extremely arrogant.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Originally Posted by Phazelwood View Post
Your statement in and of itself has no merit in demonstrating that your correct.
You obfuscate that fact by making an assumption that I have not critically analyzed scripture in order to make conclusions.

I have, and it is why many of your comments towards me are simply slanderous in nature.
I am not slandering you. UR is based on being an eisegete. It has to be or universalists would understand that salvation is not for all. The Bible states over and over again who and who won't be in heaven. To ignore them is not being an exegete.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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I am not slandering you. UR is based on being an eisegete. It has to be or universalists would understand that salvation is not for all. The Bible states over and over again who and who won't be in heaven. To ignore them is not being an exegete.
Yes, it does say over and over again who will be not be part of the KINGDOM!

Interesting stuff, I promise you.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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I am not slandering you. UR is based on being an eisegete. It has to be or universalists would understand that salvation is not for all. The Bible states over and over again who and who won't be in heaven. To ignore them is not being an exegete.

Not agreeing with what you believe the bible says has nothing to do with what I am or am not.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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I am not slandering you.
You make assumptions that have the nature of impuning someones character.

You have no idea who I am or what my life is or the changes I have made to what I believe through hours of study so you have no basis for your slanderous (yes, that is what they are) comments.
 
Old 05-13-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Not agreeing with what you believe the bible says has nothing to do with what I am or am not.
Phazelwood, it has nothing to do with my beliefs. It has to do with what the Bible says. Either the whole Bible is true because it's God Holy Word or it's not true. It really is as simple as that. I choose to believe in the entire Bible and not dismiss verses because people think they have been mistranslated over the years. The Lord would never let His Word become tainted. God is not going to deceive us for in 2 Tim 3:16 "All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness." God's Word is true! Not just parts of it, but all of it!
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