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Old 04-24-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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The title of this thread is the title of a broadcast of a radio ministry of the Berean Call called 'Search the Scriptures Daily' with Dave Hunt and T. A. McMahon. Presented in this link is a transcript of a particular program in which they are discussing prophecies concerning Israel that, contrary to what Preterists erroneously think, have not as yet been fulfilled but are yet future. The actual radio broadcast is presented here as well in MP3 format.

Are You A Preterist Or A Futurist? | thebereancall.org
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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Default preteristradio.com & preterist.tv

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The title of this thread is the title of a broadcast of a radio ministry of the Berean Call called 'Search the Scriptures Daily' with Dave Hunt and T. A. McMahon. Presented in this link is a transcript of a particular program in which they are discussing prophecies concerning Israel that, contrary to what Preterists erroneously think, have not as yet been fulfilled but are yet future. The actual radio broadcast is presented here as well in MP3 format.

Are You A Preterist Or A Futurist? | thebereancall.org
I'm a preterist...The title of this post is the title of two broadcast ministries of AD70.NET. Presented in the following links are many irrefutable proofs that "ALL" of Israels prophecies were fulfilled within the time frame in which they were to be fulfilled. Preterist Radio is a 24/7 internet radio station that promotes the message of fulfillment that is growing so significantly in our day. Preterist TV is a video sharing site that is also used to promote this same message of fulfillment.

For more than 250 podcasts from a fulfilled perspective please visit the ThePodcast.Org
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:02 PM
 
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I am a full preterist and I support the AD70.net ministry...it has been a huge blessing in my life and the added ministry of preterist.tv is awesome!

Looking forward to checking these out this week!
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:36 PM
 
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I should have chosen a different title for the thread. I simply used the title of the broadcast that I provided a link to. My purpose was to show that Preterism is Biblically unsound and doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Those who will, listen to the broadcast.
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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I am a full preterist and I support the AD70.net ministry...it has been a huge blessing in my life and the added ministry of preterist.tv is awesome!

Looking forward to checking these out this week!
Likewise.....good to see you again Wanda
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:54 PM
 
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I should have chosen a different title for the thread. I simply used the title of the broadcast that I provided a link to. My purpose was to show that Preterism is Biblically unsound and doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Those who will, listen to the broadcast.
We will see won't we now?
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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We will see won't we now?
"Few there be who find it"
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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The title of this thread is the title of a broadcast of a radio ministry of the Berean Call called 'Search the Scriptures Daily' with Dave Hunt and T. A. McMahon. Presented in this link is a transcript of a particular program in which they are discussing prophecies concerning Israel that, contrary to what Preterists erroneously think, have not as yet been fulfilled but are yet future. The actual radio broadcast is presented here as well in MP3 format.

Are You A Preterist Or A Futurist? | thebereancall.org
Thanks, Mike, I hope to listen soon. Dave Hunt is a great resource.

Here's some more on Preterism:

Is partial preterism Biblical? What do partial preterists believe?

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Those who hold to “partial preterism” believe that the prophecies in Daniel, Matthew 24, and Revelation (with the exception of the last 2-3 chapters of Revelation) have already been fulfilled and were fulfilled no later than the first century A.D.

However, the partial preterist view does not have good biblical support. Those who hold this view do not interpret these Scripture passages/books in a normal sense, but rather interpret them allegorically. Scripture should be read in a normal sense, taking into account the historical setting, the grammar, and the context of the Scripture in order to determine the meaning that the Lord intended.
What is the Preterist view of the end times?

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Furthermore, preterism is entirely inconsistent in its interpretation of the book of Revelation. According to the preterist view of the end times, chapters 6-18 of Revelation are symbolic and allegorical, not describing literal events. However, chapter 19, according to preterists, is to be understood literally. Jesus Christ will literally and physically return. Then, chapter 20 is again interpreted allegorically by preterists, while chapters 21-22 are understood literally, at least in part, in that there will truly be a new heaven and new earth. No one denies that Revelation contains amazing and sometimes confusing visions. No one denies that Revelation describes some things figuratively. However, to arbitrarily deny the literal nature of select portions of Revelation is to destroy the basis of interpreting any of the book literally. If the seals, trumpets, bowls, witnesses, 144000, beast, false prophet, millennial kingdom, etc., are allegorical or symbolic, on what basis do we claim that the second coming of Christ and the new earth are literal? That is the failure of preterism—it leaves the interpretation of Revelation to the opinions of the interpreter. Instead, we are to read it, believe it, and obey it—literally and exactly.
Preterism! I Can't Believe It

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I just cannot understand how anyone can follow a preterist line of thinking in light of current world events. As in many cases, pride is one of the most common reasons people begin following doctrinal error. They believe that they are part of a special group that has discovered a hidden truth. Never mind the fact that millions of people have joined them in supporting their folly.



Up until now, I've largely been ignoring preterism because it seemed equivalent to the Flat Earth Society. Well, I can't stand by and watch error run free, so it looks like I'm going to have to add preterism to the list of erroneous rapture views that I need to actively refute.
Questions on the Preterist View

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You have to be very careful when discussing these things with Preterists. Many of them don’t abide by any established set of rules when (re) interpreting Scripture to conform to their view. Of all the views of End Times Prophecy, the Preterist view is the most difficult to reconcile with a literal view of Scripture. I personally find it an impossible task.
Preterism

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In recent years a system of interpreting biblical prophecy known as preterism has invaded the church, bringing confusion and division to many congregations that have historically held to the future return of Jesus Christ. Promoted by popular radio teachers such as Reformed scholar R.C. Sproul, whose book The Last Days According to Jesus, advanced the moderate preterist position, preterism has made in roads into evangelical seminaries and stimulated public debates on Bible college campuses. Although most Christians have never heard of the teachings of preterism, its approach to prophecy diminishes the prophetic hope of the church while undermining the basis of the prophetic promises for Israel.
HAS BIBLE PROPHECY ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED? by Thomas Ice

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Like many of the arguments presented by Preterists, they appear to have some initial merit when looked at by the Biblically uneducated, but upon closer examination prove to be without merit. Preterists falsely built upon the misguided assumption, that they attempt to "prove" from various proof texts, that Bible prophecy had to have its fulfillment within about 40 years of Christ's first advent. There are many implications, both theological and practical, that would require a major adjustment to the Christian faith if they are right. Since their arguments are incorrect, so are the implications that flow from such thought. Because of the recent spread of Preterism, pastors and teachers need to be prepared to defend orthodox eschatology from this attack. Those who believe that Christ came in A.D. 70 will certainly not be found looking for our Lord's any-moment return when He does rapture the church without any signs or warning before this blessed event. Are we looking back at the past or forward to the future? Maranatha!
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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We will see won't we now?
Actually we won't. It didn't happen during the black plague, it didn't happen during World War 1, it didn't happen during World War II when Hitler took control of most of Europe, and I don't believe it will happen now because it already did. People 100 years ago thought it was time, people 500 years ago thought it was time, people 100 years from now will think it is time.

We must go along with scripture:

Matthew 24

This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.

Luke 21

This generation will certainly not pass away until all things be fulfilled.

Revelation 1

The revelation of Jesus Christ given to His servant John of the things that are shortly to happen, blessed is he who reads the words of this book and does what it says because the time is near.

2000+ years is not within a generation and not shortly to happen or near. But it was to those that first heard it. Let the scriptures be our guide.

Just my opinion.

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Old 04-28-2010, 10:00 PM
 
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I'm ready to see a debate between the preterists and the futurists ... Flame on!
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