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Old 05-04-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Sinners... Because they decide their own fate.

I find it amusing that sinners have all the power while the Godly are slaves to God.



Anyone who says that by rejecting God you thwart God's will that all are saved is... IMO... confused as to who is more powerful...

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Old 05-04-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Sinners... Because they decide their own fate.

I find it amusing that sinners have all the power while the Godly are slaves to God.



Anyone who says that by rejecting God you thwart God's will that all are saved is... IMO... confused as to who is more powerful...

Worse when they (sinners) have chariots of iron (Judges 1:19).
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Worse when they (sinners) have chariots of iron (Judges 1:19).
What a funny verse...


The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots.

Did the men of Judah and God have the iron chariots or the people from the plains?

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Old 05-04-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: New York City
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What a funny verse...


The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots.

Did the men of Judah and God have the iron chariots or the people from the plains?

He (god) was WITH Judah, but him and Judah were no match for the people in the plains who were using chariots.
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:28 PM
 
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God wants praise.......something I think you are missing about God. The whole purpose of Creation, for praise and glory.
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:31 PM
 
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God wants praise.......something I think you are missing about God. The whole purpose of Creation, for praise and glory.
Sounds like a petty fellow.
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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God wants praise.......something I think you are missing about God. The whole purpose of Creation, for praise and glory.
Are you saying that God derives pleasure from his creation's worship of him?
Isn't that anthropomorphizing God? or is he as emotional as someone with an EGO?

If we were capable of not having an EGO, would we care if someone worshiped us or would it be MORE pleasurable to give good gifts?

Giving a sinner grace for no reason but love for that sinner is the picture I have of God. God doesn't require something from the sinner if he inspired this to be written:

Romans 11:35 "Who has ever given to God, that God should repay him?"

Job 41:11 "Who has given to Me that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:02 PM
 
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The will of man and the devil
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:11 PM
 
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Are you saying that God derives pleasure from his creation's worship of him?
Isn't that anthropomorphizing God? or is he as emotional as someone with an EGO?
Yes.
No.
Anything and everything that God does, is for the praise and glory of Him.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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God has more power than the will of man or the devil but he is gracous to give man and the devil that option.... The devil turned once and God rejected him. Man was given the option to rule of the earth with him or by him self with out him......but with the grace of Jesus Man is given the option to be saved from damnation thoughout Man life......Still God power is supernatural and far more powerful than the devils natural power and mans carnal power.......Glory to God.........
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