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Old 05-09-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Finn:It is funny how the universlists accidentally admitted there is hell when they saw your post. They have been desparately trying to prove there is no such thing.

BHfT:
It's not that there's no such thing, it's that ETers don't understand what it is according to scripture. There's a thread about that if you'd like to learn what it really is.

 
Old 05-09-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Well, it finally happened. It was only a matter of time until the URs slipped and fell for it is very difficult to maintain a lie. Eventually you make a comment which reveals prior lies. The funny part is that they all came up with thumbs up to admit there is hell and you are thrown there for skipping charity. Why? Well, because they were so busy to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Yes, rejecting Christ is a sure way to hell. I wouldn't say it if the Bible wasn't crystal clear about it.
Out of curiosity (which unfortunately tends to kill Kats...), I did a bible search for reject...

When the Israelites rejected God in Lev. 26 He told them they would be diseased and die while their enemies at what they planted.

So the punishment for rejection of God was physical death...

And in 2 Kings 17 Israel worships idols, sacrifices their children, and God "removed them from his presence, as he had warned through all his servants the prophets. So the people of Israel were taken from their homeland into exile in Assyria, and they are still there."

So exile from their promised land was the punishment for rejecting God and his servants, the prophets...

YET you said, "rejecting Christ is a sure way to hell. I wouldn't say it if the Bible wasn't crystal clear about it."

In God's dealings with his people we see a pattern of punishment which doesn't support that rejecting Christ is a sure way to hell.

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth."

Rejecting it is synonymous with counting YOURSELF worthy of eternal life (knowing God and his son). How can you say rejecting it leads to hell?

I think Paul and Barnabas were universal salvation believers... to the ends of the earth! They didn't seem to care that those rejecting (considering themselves unworthy) didn't believe them.. they just moved on. It seems you may have to revise your statement: "rejecting Christ is a sure way to hell. I wouldn't say it if the Bible wasn't crystal clear about it."
 
Old 05-09-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAAAAAAAAA.

So, now all of a sudden you admit there is hell and you end up there if you skip charity.

Oh, mi Lord.......This is too funny to be true.


You are really reaching, eh Finn_Jarber?

I did nothing of the sort. The poster was showing the verse in context.
It is your carnal interpretations that are apparently making you a bit confused.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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Well, it finally happened. It was only a matter of time until the URs slipped and fell for it is very difficult to maintain a lie. Eventually you make a comment which reveals prior lies. The funny part is that they all came up with thumbs up to admit there is hell and you are thrown there for skipping charity. Why? Well, because they were so busy to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.
You are really, really stretching. Read the "What is hell" thread. It's really kind of sad when you have to resort to making up stuff because you can't prove that God is hateful and will torture people forever. You keep trying to prove it, but you can't. The scriptures won't allow for it.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Well, it finally happened. It was only a matter of time until the URs slipped and fell for it is very difficult to maintain a lie. Eventually you make a comment which reveals prior lies. The funny part is that they all came up with thumbs up to admit there is hell and you are thrown there for skipping charity. Why? Well, because they were so busy to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.
Yikes Finn...

The problem is your paradigm. You are still thinking that -whatever you do- results in punishment of an eternal nature. Not having charity is disobeying the "love your neighbor as yourself" command. Which results in eternal fire from God. Punishment here is kolasis isn't it, which really means correction and has nothing to do with a fiery pit in the afterlife which you call hell.

But if this is how you see things then it reminds me of this passage:

Anyone who is among the living has hope--even a live dog is better off than a dead lion! (Ecc. 9:4)

Although a wicked man commits a hundred crimes and still lives a long time, I know that it will go better with God-fearing men, who are reverent before God. (Ecc. 8:12)

Why do you go from a life lesson (as in while living) in scripture to a fiery torture pit called hell after you die.

Your idea of a Dante's inferno type place where people burn consciously without end does not exist. That is the Christian hell, right?

In spreading the good news they didn't say... "or you will burn in everlasting fire writhing in pain"... Why would you?
 
Old 05-09-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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