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Old 06-26-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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A new creation man that is neither Jew or Gentile .
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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Actually it is UR that believes God is a failure, because when He said it was finished, it really wasn't finished. They also believe that Christ is a liar and all the apostles were liars as well when they said that one must believe in Christ to have eternal life with Him, when they were clear that confession and rebirth must happen whilst one is still in the status of the old man, the old creation that you and I are bound to without Christ.
BS you know very well that anyone who believes the truth of UR believes we confess Jesus not only as Lord but our Lord regarding salvation . There has not been anyone on this forum who believes in UR who has posted otherwise.
The major problem with orthodox christianity is it says it's by faith but what they confess and believe says otherwise . Infact there are that many "believe and buts and believe ands" , it's untrue.
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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Actually it is UR that believes God is a failure, because when He said it was finished, it really wasn't finished. They also believe that Christ is a liar and all the apostles were liars as well when they said that one must believe in Christ to have eternal life with Him, when they were clear that confession and rebirth must happen whilst one is still in the status of the old man, the old creation that you and I are bound to without Christ.
Sciotamicks - slander is truly unbecoming of one who is professing the name of Christ. For your sake, you really should examine your heart before you speak.
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:31 PM
 
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A new creation man that is neither Jew or Gentile .
Gotcha!
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:34 PM
 
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Enough with the profanity! Somewhere else if you like, but this is a Christian forum....please.

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you know very well that anyone who believes the truth of UR believes we confess Jesus not only as Lord but our Lord regarding salvation . There has not been anyone on this forum who believes in UR who has posted otherwise.
Purging...cleansing...correction..whatever you want to call it, pits Jesus and the disciples as liars and their preserverance in vain. Right now you are dead. When you confess, you are reborn. Rebirth is in this life...that's it. No other chance. UR lies.
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:35 PM
 
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Sciotamicks - slander is truly unbecoming of one who is professing the name of Christ. For your sake, you really should examine your heart before you speak.
Leave it...I was replying with a lighter tone than the one who I was replying to who was slanderous. Read the thread, and think before you speak to me.
It was purely defensive to an offensive comment.
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Old 06-26-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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Leave it...I was replying with a lighter tone than the one who I was replying to who was slanderous. Read the thread, and think before you speak to me.
It was purely defensive to an offensive comment.
You get offended because i call you out on your BS , and you speak in this manner .

Why do you and the rest of the fundies slander those who believe in UR ?.

Even if UR was error (which it's not) , there is not a poster who believes in UR on here who does not believe there is no other name under heaven given why a man may be saved , and yet you and the rest of the fundies cannot accept we are fellow believers . Like i keep reminding you "It's who we have believed in and not what we have believed in", you obviously believe salvation is in somehow knowing the whole counsel of God without any short comings. Again this is where a major problem lies with fundamental christianity , "It's believe and some".


Salvation is not in understanding the doctrines and teachings of the bible , it's in whom the scriptures testify of.
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Old 06-26-2010, 07:20 PM
 
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You get offended because i call you out on your BS , and you speak in this manner .
No I just don't like to see profanity on a Christian forum, and you did it again. Your fruit is for all to see here.

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Why do you and the rest of the fundies slander those who believe in UR ?.
You mean expose it? You slander ET.

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Even if UR was error (which it's not) , there is not a poster who believes in UR on here who does not believe there is no other name under heaven given why a man may be saved , and yet you and the rest of the fundies cannot accept we are fellow believers . Like i keep reminding you "It's who we have believed in and not what we have believed in", you obviously believe salvation is in somehow knowing the whole counsel of God without any short comings. Again this is where a major problem lies with fundamental christianity , "It's believe and some".
Keep cloaking the correction post mortem refinement!
I will keep exposing the heresy.

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Salvation is not in understanding the doctrines and teachings of the bible , it's in whom the scriptures testify of.
In this life only can you obtain and have it. That's it.
Once you breathe your last breath, it's over.
Confess now, or be separated from God forever.
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Old 06-26-2010, 07:37 PM
 
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Slander ET ?????? are you listening to what you are saying .

It's the very nature of God you are slandering to believe that God would throw into eternal torment those who rejected is message .

Jesus rebuked James and John for wanting to call fire down from heaven on those who rejected his message and he told them they knew not what spirit they were of for even suggesting it .

It really is amazing how orthodox christianity will not bat an eye lid at the thought that God is going to throw billions into this eternal lake of fire you believe in , yet it would be appalled at any of the atrocities we hear of and witness daily in the news. You just couldn't make it .

The same spirit that calls fire down from heaven is the same spirit that believes that God is going to eternally fry those who reject his message.,
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Old 06-26-2010, 07:43 PM
 
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It's the very nature of God you are slandering to believe that God would throw into eternal torment those who rejected is message .
It is the very of nature of God that you deny...His wrath, His justice, His mercy and love. You people need to accept all of Him, not part of Him.

The rest of your post, was jargon and slander.
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