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Old 08-25-2010, 01:09 AM
 
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Ironmaw, rehab only exists in this life. None other. Your Origen's theology is flawed.

According to the traditions of men, but not according to the scriptures. There is no place in the scriptures that teaches that one cannot be saved after death. And there is no place in the scriptures that teaches one cannot be saved after judgment. As a matter of fact the bible specifically teaches the the Gospel was preached to the dead and to the spirits in prison who rebelled in the days of Noah, so that they will live in the spirit according to God(1Pe 4:6,1Pe 3:19). And the scriptures also teach that God will heal those whom he judges in wrath and will restore comforts to them, and that through his fiery judgments he will purify those whom he judges in the day of the lord, and then they will learn righteousness(Isa 26:9,Mal 3:3).

Though Origen was one of the many early fathers who taught the true gospel of universal reconciliation, he was only one among the vast majority of Christians who believed and taught it in the first 5 centuries of the early church. The doctrine of UR was taught in 4 our the 6 catatchetical schools of Christianity during the first five centuries(Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa, or Nisibis), while ET was only taught by one(Carthage or Rome). And ET only became the orthodox doctrine when Rome made Christianity the state religion in the fourth century, after which the school of Rome became the center of the Christian world and their false doctrine was made the official doctrine hundreds of years later.

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The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, vol. 12, p. 96; Retrieved April 29, 2007.

“In the West this doctrine had fewer adherents and was never accepted by the Church at large. In the first five or six centuries of Christianity there were six theological schools, of which four (Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa, or Nisibis) were Universalist; one (Ephesus) accepted conditional mortality; one (Carthage or Rome) taught endless punishment of the wicked.”

* Seymour, Charles. A Theodicy of Hell. p. 25. Springer (2000).
* Ludlow, Morwenna. Universal Salvation: eschatology in the thought of Gregory of Nyssa and Karl Rahner. Pp. 1-2. Oxford University Press (2000).
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:20 AM
 
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Misrepresentation to create an impression, is called refuting error?
Usually, this is done for the purpose of deceiving, defrauding, or causing others to rely on it detrimentally.

SciotaMicks
You appear to be internally tormented, thus, you may want to take your own advice when it comes to rehabilitation. I believe itís called Restoration; to restore to a former state.
You also claim that it is finished, yet there will be those who will reject Christ? This is only a finite thought within the minds of men, who struggle for survival in this life.
Search deeply, again, into your daughtersí eyes, as she may reject your doctrine which comes from the Spirits of other men?

"Let God be true and every man a liar."

Love seeks to encourage and build up others; itís not about situational ethics, or only the strongest in their faith survive. It is the Faith of Christ, his faithfulness, not ours.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:28 AM
 
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What the hell is the IPA and who cares?
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:31 AM
 
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What the hell is the IPA and who cares?

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Old 08-25-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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John 5:42 but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts.


Romans 8:39
neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


2 Corinthians 13:14
May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.


Titus 3:4
But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,

1 John 3:17
If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him?

It is God's love and His Spirit working in oneself to love God. We cannot do this on our own. This is the mystery of Christ. We need God in Christ to love first. Our faith in Christ, who begins and perfects. A new heart in Christ, His heart. "A new man in Christ". All in Christ, to Him be all the glory!

God Bless,
Mercy
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