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Old 08-02-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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You liberal theologians love prostitutes, sinners and publicans because Jesus rebuked the Pharisees concerning them; but, Jesus never rebuked them over their definition of marriage between a man and woman.
And in doing so he showed true "agape" love for God and even those he rebuked. Some just can't accept that, do not really want to follow Jesus, just feel good about anything and everything and of course feel superior to others.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:19 AM
 
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And in doing so he showed true "agape" love for God and even those he rebuked. Some just can't accept that, do not really want to follow Jesus, just feel good about anything and everything and of course feel superior to others.
Jesus never acknowledged any relationship but a man and his wife. You can't escape this fact.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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Jesus never acknowledged any relationship but a man and his wife. You can't escape this fact.
And yet there has always been incest, concubine, handmaidens, brothers with each other's wives, throughout the pornographic old testament...

And the ONE time Christ mentions a man and a woman, was in DIRECT response to a specific question about the relationship between a man & a woman...
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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And yet there has always been incest, concubine, handmaidens, brothers with each other's wives, throughout the pornographic old testament...

And the ONE time Christ mentions a man and a woman, was in DIRECT response to a specific question about the relationship between a man & a woman...
wrong. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees whenever they presented false teaching. But, Jesus did not do that when confronted with the definition of marriage.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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wrong. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees whenever they presented false teaching. But, Jesus did not do that when confronted with the definition of marriage.
Was that the time they came to Him with a question about serial monogamy? Matt 22:24ff
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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Was that the time they came to Him with a question about serial monogamy? Matt 22:24ff
You know the facts. Jesus never corrected the Pharisees about the definition of marriage.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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You know the facts. Jesus never corrected the Pharisees about the definition of marriage.
Actually, He did..RIGHT in that passage I referenced. Get the facts.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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Any sex outside of a man/woman marriage is considered sexual immorality, and homosexuality falls in that category. It is sexual immorality, and it is sinful.
QUESTION: Why is any sex outside of a man/woman marriage considered sexual immorality? The answer that " it just is" isn't really satisfactory.

Perhaps the reasoning that reaches such a conclusion is that sex is sinful itself and only allowed to create babies. Is that it.?
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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Actually, He did..RIGHT in that passage I referenced. Get the facts.
you're perverting. Jesus never rebuked the Pharisees over the definition of marriage between a man and his wife. Jesus is the Groom and the Church is His Bride; it's male and female, always has been.
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Old 08-02-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Ok, i am not going to say that homosexual activity is not a sin, since it is entirely clear in Leviticus that it is. I am wondering what was God's reason for making it a sin.

Most sins such as stealing, lying or murder, hurt somebody, or cause somebody to be unwillingly inconvenienced. True, any type of sex can lead to STDs, but if both partners are virginal or clean (or use protection), then the sex is not hurting anyone , assuming it is consensual for both parties.

I've heard people say it is a sin because it is against God's intention and/or natural law's intention for the use of our genitilia....but what if I were to use another body part, say my toenails, for a purpose contrary to what God/natural law made them for. If i am double jointed and strretch my leg behind my back and use my fingernails to scratch my back, i run the risk of harming myself, and I am clearly using my legs/feet and toenails for a purpose they were not bcreated for...but is it a sin? No, i really do not think it is.

Some would also say that being homosexual is against God's commandment to be fruitful and multiply. But what about priests who do not marry and procreate or someone with a hazardous job who does'nt want to bring children into the world for the fear that they would sooner or later have to deal with their father dying in a work-related accident....these people are breaking God's commandment to multiply, yet i would'nt think that their decision to do so would be considered sinful by God.

Please help me understand why God views homosexual behavior as sinful...could it possibly have been a commandment that only applied to ancient Israelites so that they would survive as a distinct nation and not assimilate to the ways of the pagans (pagans had lots of gay sex)...so would this law fall into the same category as the one about not having a goatee (Leviticus 19:27....the Egyptians wore goatees and God did'nt want the Jews to adopt pagan customs, he wanted them to have a unique culture that would set them apart and help Israel survive until the Savior came)

All the laws have an alternate meaning, it is a wedding contract between God and his people. If a Messiah comes and find two men in a bed, it is because they were committing a type of spiritual homosexuality. A person is supposed to become a submissive virgin to the will of her betrothed, but you take a Christian who believes in wealth and prosperity instead of serving, then God comes and find two men in a bed because that person refused to become a submissive virgin.


If God comes and finds two woman at the wheel, it is the same as a person who gives into all their desires and they have rationalized what is sin and what isn't.


We are given a marriage contract with the Torah and everything in it pertains to a marriage between flesh and spirit and if you go involve yourself in the worship of other god's then you have become a harlot and you are committing adultery against God. They committed adultery against God when Moses came and found them building that golden calf and he said ,'' Fine, go have children by your lovers and see if you can raise a righteous son.''


There are sins in the flesh and sexual immorality, but the sins of the spirit are much worse, committing adultery against your husband is a vile thing to do, and yet committing adultery against God is worse.
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