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Old 08-03-2016, 12:15 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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No takers on my question here.

It's not a hard question... the ramifications, however, will take some people where they do not want to go.
No, it's not a hard question.

It wasn't a sin.

It wasn't a sin because it's an allegory - a story that never happened in reality.

No Adam. No Eve. No serpent. No tree.

No Yaweh.

And no original sin.
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Old 08-03-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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All sexual activity outside of an exclusive, committed God-ordained marriage
is profane sin.
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, not Eve and Barbara, and not
Adam, Eve, Barbara and Steve.
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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It might only have the ramifications you think it does if one believes that God literally commanded a literal man and woman not to eat a literal piece of fruit from a literal tree which literally would give people the knowledge of good and evil.
Well, I do, so.... that's a different issue.
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: GOVERNMENT of TRAITORS & NAZIS
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All sexual activity outside of an exclusive, committed God-ordained marriage
is profane sin.
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, not Eve and Barbara, and not
Adam, Eve, Barbara and Steve.
And what "VOWS" did Adam and Steve take? Who officiated over their children's marriage? And how many other people did Adam have relations with to populate the world? One child every nine months just could not produce enough people to make a football team in less than 12 years...
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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Well, I do, so.... that's a different issue.

No, it's not a different issue. You indicated that you thought people not answering your question was because of the ramifications of the answer. Rather, people aren't answering because they do not accept your premise that it is a literally true story.

Last edited by Pleroo; 08-03-2016 at 01:34 PM.. Reason: my editor made me
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: GOVERNMENT of TRAITORS & NAZIS
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I am answering a question with a question - that should lead to the answer of your question...

QUESTION: When Adam ate from the forbidden tree, why was it a sin? Because eating fruit is sinful, or because the command came from God?
Because a group of patriarchal men wrote what they wanted as a means of creating FEAR and OBEDIENCE from the people..
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:31 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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No takers on my question here.

It's not a hard question... the ramifications, however, will take some people where they do not want to go.
Yes, in the story, that's why it was a sin. Disobedience.

But it is still a story told to explain the human condition, not an actual event.
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Old 08-03-2016, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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It might only have the ramifications you think it does if one believes that God literally commanded a literal man and woman not to eat a literal piece of fruit from a literal tree which literally would give people the knowledge of good and evil.
OR, it might not have the ramifications he thinks it does because of the difference between a child and an adult. If he thinks we are children, then he NEEDS the kind of supervision he is positing.
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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No takers on my question here.
It's not a hard question... the ramifications, however, will take some people where they do not want to go.
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It might only have the ramifications you think it does if one believes that God literally commanded a literal man and woman not to eat a literal piece of fruit from a literal tree which literally would give people the knowledge of good and evil.
Amen, Pleroo!!!!!
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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No, it's not a hard question.

It wasn't a sin.

It wasn't a sin because it's an allegory - a story that never happened in reality.

No Adam. No Eve. No serpent. No tree.

No Yaweh.

And no original sin.
welp, so much for Jesus with you, and vocal cohort of others here
in this forum:

Luke 24:44-49

44And he said to them: These are the words which I spoke to you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45Then he opened their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.
46And he said to them: Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise again from the dead, the third day:
47And that penance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, unto all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48And you are witnesses of these things.
49And I send the promise of my Father upon you: but stay you in the city till you be endued with power from on high.

Say bye to Jesus... all who love sin more than truth.
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