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Old 05-20-2010, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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On the Christianity forum? No
On the CARM forum
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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CW2L, I am insulted and appalled at you for saying that. We believe that Christ is the Messiah, that He is the Son of God, that He died on the cross for the sins of mankind, that He arose, and gives eternal life. You don't believe in OSAS. Maybe you don't think it's Christian either. I don't know. But if you do believe it's Christian, why, since you could be talking to a lost sinner (in your opinion) who thinks they are eternally secure since they were at one time "saved." You should apologize. Some people here believe in annihilation. Are they Christian in your opinion, or do you think you have to believe that God will set people on fire who didn't make a wise choice in order to be a Christian?
Apologize for what? Stating the UR is not Christian? It is heresy! It is completely not Biblical. I'm sorry you are offended by what I said, but I stand by that statement. At this moment, I don't believe in OSAS, but I'm still researching (again) because I see both sides of the argument. I do not believe that a true Christian will follow something that is so obviously not Biblical once they are shown WHY UR is not Biblical. The Bible is not mistranslated or written by ignorant savages.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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On the CARM forum
Since when are we talking about CARM?

Edit: Oh I see you added (CARM) in #15 after I responded to what you wrote

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Old 05-20-2010, 07:09 PM
 
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It is indeed, the forum has been overran by them, but the rise of false religion, or 'one world religion' which is exactly what UR is, was just a matter it time. I suggested months ago that a new sub-section should be created for UR, because it does not belong under the category of "Christianity".
This forum is for anyone to discuss Christianity to discuss what you want to discuss -- if you have a subject to discuss make a thread -- why continue to discuss what you do not want to discuss? Months ago you said "I am not going to discuss UR anymore "

1-Basic Christianity Sub-Forum Guidelines:
This sub-forum should simply contain topics that would be less interesting to people of other faiths who are not solely interested in the Christian perspective of a particular topic. Everybody is welcome to post in it, however debating the merits of Christianity should primarily be reserved for the main forum. That being said, some challenges to the Christian faith may be allowed as long as it's done in accordance with the ToS and doesn't hijack or take the thread off-topic. The CD forums are places to share ideas and differing points of views and every forum and sub-forum needs to be a place welcoming that.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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It is indeed, the forum has been overran by them, but the rise of false religion, or 'one world religion' which is exactly what UR is, was just a matter it time. I suggested months ago that a new sub-section should be created for UR, because it does not belong under the category of "Christianity".
I completely agree
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:19 PM
 
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Father, forgive them for they know not what they do or say.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Since when are we talking about CARM?

Edit: Oh I see you added (CARM) in #15 after I responded to what you wrote
Yes- sorry - I mistakenly thought this was referring to the CARM thread. If a site bans all discussion deemed to be heretical then I understand that. It's when they specifically pick out UR and let everything else go (like CARM does) that I find really strange.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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You think that's why it's banned? It's banned because it's heresy!
I suppose its banned because people think its heresy, but there are some forums (like CARM) that allow all sorts of heresy to be discussed, except for UR. The idea of UR cannot be defeated IMHO if studied objectively and compared with properly translated scripture. I believe it is banned simply because UR asks the tough questions and exposes the contradictions in Christianity.

People want to believe in eternal torment even though it can be shown to be not in scripture. People want to believe in free will even though it can be shown to be not in scripture. People just want to hang onto these two ideas for some reason, even though they are contrary to what scripture says. I believe it is simply due to pride.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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UR is not Christian
Of course it is! Eternal torment is not Christian.

Eternal torment is the exact opposite of love. This is why I believe God allows the idea of eternal torment to exist, so we can fully understand what love is by first seeing what the exact opposite of love is.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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Apologize for what? Stating the UR is not Christian? It is heresy! It is completely not Biblical. I'm sorry you are offended by what I said, but I stand by that statement. At this moment, I don't believe in OSAS, but I'm still researching (again) because I see both sides of the argument. I do not believe that a true Christian will follow something that is so obviously not Biblical once they are shown WHY UR is not Biblical. The Bible is not mistranslated or written by ignorant savages.
Will you answer my last question? Do you think someone has to believe God will set people on fire to be a Christian?
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