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Old 05-23-2010, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Beneath the earth, and is four "hollows", which can enlarge herself as needed, to receive more souls -which souls Sheol/Hell lusts to receive, and is never satisfied with receiving.

Isa 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet [thee] at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, [even] all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.Pro 15:24 The way of life [is] above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.
Hab 2:5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, [he is] a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and [is] as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Enoch saw Sheol/Hell beneath the earth, and laid the foundational doctrine of Sheol below earth and the foundational doctrine of the Lake of Fire, which Enoch also saw "out" in "the outer darkness", which has no firmly founded earth beneath it nor heaven above it.
You can search the Book of 1 Enoch [The Book of Enoch] for the doctrines he laid down for all generations of Sheol below earth and the Lake of Fire "out", as the outer darkness.
What does that mean "Beneath the Earth"? Is that under the surface of the ground or does it mean under the South poll some where out in space?
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:21 AM
 
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What domain....Hell? No that's justice.



I am really interested as to how the Universalist can come to this conclusion.

Your answer.......Yes...He already did, for His new creation, which is the church, and that has been supplied to you in many verses.
Again, you don't believe sin can be eradicated, do you?
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:31 AM
 
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I'm sure the idea of "hell" was created by someone long ago to explain why lave spewed from a volcano.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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I'm sure the idea of "hell" was created by someone long ago to explain why lave spewed from a volcano.
Actually, the idea of hell is not too far off from that of a raging volcano. It's really sad that this torture chamber idea is so ingrained in the teachings of fundamental Christianity.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Again, you don't believe sin can be eradicated, do you?
Again...I believe He already eradicated it. THAT MEANS IT IS ACCOMPLISHED.

However, since you don't believe He has, then everything He said in regards to the eradication of sin never came when it was supposed, surrounding the fall of the temple, the physical manifestation of when the kingdom would arrive as He promised, where sin and death would be destroyed, when the Age to Come began, where the increase of His government and peace, there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

What your issue now is, do you continue looking for what's Lo here! or, lo there! or you come to terms that for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Your choice. I made mine.
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:28 AM
 
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Again...I believe He already eradicated it. THAT MEANS IT IS ACCOMPLISHED.

However, since you don't believe He has, then everything He said in regards to the eradication of sin never came when it was supposed, surrounding the fall of the temple, the physical manifestation of when the kingdom would arrive as He promised, where sin and death would be destroyed, when the Age to Come began, where the increase of His government and peace, there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

What your issue now is, do you continue looking for what's Lo here! or, lo there! or you come to terms that for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Your choice. I made mine.
So you don't think anyone is sinning right now?
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:48 AM
 
Location: On the dark side of the Moon
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For those that believe in Hell, where it is that God is moving Sinners to? What is its location?
Ironically, the gates of hell are located in Lordsburg, New Mexico. Just ask Charles Manson. He should know.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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I'm sure the idea of "hell" was created by someone long ago to explain why lave spewed from a volcano.
Yes... there was a study on hell shown on the History channel and it said that it may well have been a way to explain why fire shot out of volcanoes. In fact they think that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by a catastrophic event that the people attributed to God raining fire down from heaven...

It is certainly plausible given the primitive thinking back then.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:31 AM
 
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So you don't think anyone is sinning right now?
What part of what you cannot see are you having trouble understanding?

Can you see your sprit?
Can you see the blood of Christ on you?
Can you see the white robe you wear?
Can you see God?
Can you see Heaven?
Can you see the kingdom?

You cannot see any of these as they are all part of the spirit.

Only God, because of Christ's blood on you, cannot see your sin, therefore, you can appraoch Him anytime you want.

Until you surrender to Him in Christ, you cannot approach Him sinless.

Get it? Paul died daily. One perfect sanctified sacrifice, we are continously being sanctified in prayer and repentance.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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Funny you should say that.

The atheist would say the same thing about your belief in God

Actually if you research and talk to atheists enough and let them understand that your belief in God is not about condemnation for them if they do not believe the way you believe, they are a bit more relaxed about the thought.

It really is about the proof that your own beliefs have saved you from anything to the degree that you can demand they believe what you do or they will burn in hell.

Oh, that's right, your beliefs wouldn't cause them understand that about you.
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