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Old 06-01-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Yes, it is a choise, and millions reject it.




Then I would not be saved, and I would suffer everlasting punishment after I die. Bible makes that crystal clear.




Keep repeating it. I can't make it any clearer than I already did, so if you still twist the truth like that, I'll have to assume that you simply enjoy making false statements.

Would it make any sense for Jesus to say 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!' if he was going to let everyone in anyway? It wouldn't make any sense would it? Worse, it woud make him a liar, which is impossible.



Yes. Define insinuate: slyly suggest something unpleasant, as in: To win the case, the attorney tried to insinuate the witness was lying
Thank you for proving my point.
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Just wait till Satans sells it to the unbelieving crowds. It fits his purpose perfectly.

Remember that believers will have been raptured when Satan introduces this universal religion, so who's going to correct the obvious inaccuracies then?
Hey, my mom and dad were pretty intelligent people when it came to these things, and they certainly did NOT believe in a rapture event. It is not going to happen. I'm sorry. The rapture is a fairly recent doctrine, and the reasonings behind this doctrine are just politics and fear.

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Old 06-01-2010, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I was warned about the Universal Religion since I was 5 years old. This is not it, I can assure you. And I believe the Ecumenical movement that was warned about was the Protestant and Catholic churches uniting under one big happy umbrella.
The Catholic church is a cult IMO, but it won't work because the Muslims and others see it as Christian, and will never accept it. Satan and his false prophet will need something truly universal, and what's better than something that promises automatic ticket to heaven for everyone, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Hindu, etc etc....UR has it all.
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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The Catholic church is a cult IMO, but it won't work because the Muslims and others see it as Christian, and will never accept it. Satan and his false prophet will need something truly universal, and what's better than something that promises automatic ticket to heaven for everyone, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Hindu, etc etc....UR has it all.
If you read my next couple of posts, I was saying that URs don't believe in any other way to the Father except through Yeshua. I don't know how many other religions out there are going to get all warm and fuzzy over that.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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If you read my next couple of posts, I was saying that URs don't believe in any other way to the Father except through Yeshua. I don't know how many other religions out there are going to get all warm and fuzzy over that.
They will love it when they hear they can live as they wish: drink, eat, be merry, fornicate, lie, steal, cheat, hoard money etc, and never open the Bible or Quran and never pray, and they can die denying Christ and Allah etc and after death a merciful and loving God will guide them to heaven. Heck, it is the definition of warm and fuzzy, and why should Satan mention anything about Yeshua? After all, what's the point, since everyone will be saved whether or not they ever hear the name Yeshua?
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:08 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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They will love it when they hear they can live as they wish: drink, eat, be merry, fornicate, lie, steal, cheat, hoard money etc, and never open the Bible or Quran and never pray, and they can die denying Christ and Allah etc and after death a merciful and loving God will guide them to heaven. Heck, it is the definition of warm and fuzzy, and why should Satan mention anything about Yeshua? After all, what's the point, since everyone will be saved whether or not they ever hear the name Yeshua?
You know very well UR does not mean anything of the sort , and yet you get all touchy and cry slander because someone says Salvation is all of God and we have no part in it and to believe other wise we are taking credit ourselves.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:16 PM
 
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Thank you for proving my point.
Kat....I think he is having trouble messing "if you believe" with "you have NOT chosen me, but I have chosen you". I totally see your point and your frustration in the matter.

Accept Christ = salvation
Dont accept Christ = not salvation

pretty cut and dry to me that this is 'man' saving himself.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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They will love it when they hear they can live as they wish: drink, eat, be merry, fornicate, lie, steal, cheat, hoard money etc, and never open the Bible or Quran and never pray, and they can die denying Christ and Allah etc and after death a merciful and loving God will guide them to heaven. Heck, it is the definition of warm and fuzzy, and why should Satan mention anything about Yeshua? After all, what's the point, since everyone will be saved whether or not they ever hear the name Yeshua?


Actually, Finn, people already do all these things while saying they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or whatever.

The message of traditional UR is you reap what you sow. EVERYBODY! Yeshua paid our price (death) and now we are ALL raised up again. But, that is most certainly not the end of things. Warm and fuzzy it is not.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:32 PM
 
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Actually, Finn, people already do all these things while saying they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or whatever.

The message of traditional UR is you reap what you sow. EVERYBODY! Yeshua paid our price (death) and now we are ALL raised up again. But, that is most certainly not the end of things. Warm and fuzzy it is not.
Agreed ....... Judgment happens
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Actually, Finn, people already do all these things while saying they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or whatever.

The message of traditional UR is you reap what you sow. EVERYBODY! Yeshua paid our price (death) and now we are ALL raised up again. But, that is most certainly not the end of things. Warm and fuzzy it is not.
Exactly
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth . Hebrews 12 verse 6
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