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Old 06-02-2010, 07:38 AM
 
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The answer is in the book of Romans, and it not "yes/no".

If you are not interested in the answer, then don't look it up. I am not interested in playing childish games.

Then don't play them.

The answer is yes.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Yes, regardless of faith. All = Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Bhuddists, hare chrisnas etc etc. All means all faiths and all faithless.

They don't have trouble admitting they believe in UR, but they have trouble admitting that it eliminates the need for Chirst for the living. They defend it by saying "oh but you still need Christ after you die". Well, that only confirms there is no need for Christ for the living.


Finn, how important is it that Jeaus ROSE FROM THE DEAD?? How does this impact ALL of those who have died? Does Jesus' DEATH and RESURRECTION matter to all those people rotting in their graves??

Do they NEED the firstfruit??
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Finn, how important is it that Jeaus ROSE FROM THE DEAD?? How does this impact ALL of those who have died? Does Jesus' DEATH and RESURRECTION matter to all those people rotting in their graves????
I go by the Bible. UR offers salvation for dead unbelievers, but the Bible is for the living because you need to make your choise while still breathing. It says nothing about salvation for dead unbelievers.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Little Elm, TX
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It says nothing about salvation for dead unbelievers.
Death the way of life
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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THE SECOND DEATH
AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS

heh-heh. Thanks for the giggles.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Little Elm, TX
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THE SECOND DEATH
AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS

heh-heh. Thanks for the giggles.
Obviously, you don't press in to spiritual things.

In due time.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Obviously, you don't press in to spiritual things.

In due time.
Oh yes I do, and this is why I know UR for what it is.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:31 AM
 
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I go by the Bible. UR offers salvation for dead unbelievers, but the Bible is for the living because you need to make your choise while still breathing. It says nothing about salvation for dead unbelievers.

Well, then we should hope that most of the world actually dies in ignorance. Going out and spreading the gospel actually potentially damns more people than it saves.

A. The ignorant in Christ have a 100% chance (lol chance) of salvation.
b. Telling an ignorant person about Christ then opens the door for damnation where as before damnation was not a possibility.

A dead person ignorant of Christ when they die is gauranteed salvation.


Way to go religion. clap clap clap clap clap clap

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Old 06-03-2010, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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A. The ignorant in Christ have a 100% chance (lol chance) of salvation.
No, not according to the Bible.

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b. Telling an ignorant person about Christ then opens the door for damnation where as before damnation was not a possibility.
Yes, damnation was a prossibility. Telling the opens the door to salvation.


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Way to go religion. clap clap clap clap clap clap
Mock, if you must. I am used to it by now.
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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No, not according to the Bible.
So finally you give a YES answer that someone who dies never hearing about Christ (ignorant of Christ) is damned.


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Mock, if you must. I am used to it by now.
Good, because a belief that God created a human being and damns it to some place called hell because that human being died before God got around to revealing himself deserves to be mocked for the nonsense that it is.
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