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Old 05-29-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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Also, the Rich man is a reference to the High Priest. The Lepers were laid outside the gate. (remember they are considered unclean). You know this Lazarus is a leper because he is full of sores (the dogs licked his sores).


When this parable is spoken of the Jews would have definately known who these people were. At this point Lazarus would have been known throughtout the area and the rich man's description is that of the High Priest for he it is that wears such garments.
Scripture please...... that Lazarus was a leper !!

Job had sores all over him also, so does that indicate he was a leper ?

Malnutrition will cause sores upon the body !!!

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Old 05-29-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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Scripture please...... that Lazarus was a leper !!

Job had sores all over him also, so does that indicate he was a leper ?

Malnutrition will cause sores upon the body !!!
Hi Latte'Chic are you fishing with the bait of doubt? I'll answer to others that come with a more acceptable bait.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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Lazarus is in the parable is actually Simon the Leper. The same Lazarus that Jesus raised from the dead.
Ah yes... that is the other alternative interpretation I was thinking of before... do you have a describtion of this one trettep? How do the rest of the symbols fit in?

I find the view that Lazarus is Eliezer (which means lazarus) aka Abraham's Gentile servant and the rich man is Judah (representing Israel) to be fairly consistent. Its basically another parable about Israel and the Gentiles.

I don't know all the details of the Simon the Leper interpretation.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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Hi Latte'Chic are you fishing with the bait of doubt? I'll answer to others that come with a more acceptable bait.
No, doubt here !!
Please provide scripture that lazarus was a leper. If it is true then the scripture will be there and support your statement !! And you will be able to defend your position in what you have stated !!

Apparently you're assuming he was, making it up which would not be truthful !! The scripture will always support the truth !!

So please show me in the scripture where it says that Lazarus was a leper... not your interpretation or some other individuals philosophy of the parable !!

Thanks....
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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you are so right. it shows karma pure and simple. jesus never came to teach-- everybody can walk the rap. jesus is not an ACLU lawyer. he didnt save the 2 guys being crucified for murder on his left and right, they had it comin--- karma
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:30 AM
 
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Ah yes... that is the other alternative interpretation I was thinking of before... do you have a describtion of this one trettep? How do the rest of the symbols fit in?

I find the view that Lazarus is Eliezer (which means lazarus) aka Abraham's Gentile servant and the rich man is Judah (representing Israel) to be fairly consistent. Its basically another parable about Israel and the Gentiles.

I don't know all the details of the Simon the Leper interpretation.
Lazarus is full of sores that the dogs licked this shows that he is a leper but we have much more evidence than that.

Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

He was laid at the GATE. This is where lepers had to beg from. They were considered unclean.

Lev 14:2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
Lev 14:3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;

Notice the leper shall be brought to the Priest but the Priest must go out of the camp unto the Leper to inspect him. See the leper is brought to the gate (meaning brought to the Priest) and the Priest then must go out to inspect him.

Also, look at who Lazarus is related to in the scriptures. Martha and Mary.

Mat 26:6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,

Mar 14:3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.

Joh 11:1 Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.

If you read about the house of Simon the Leper, you will notice that Mary and Martha are serving in the house.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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Lazarus is full of sores that the dogs licked this shows that he is a leper but we have much more evidence than that.

Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

He was laid at the GATE. This is where lepers had to beg from. They were considered unclean.

Lev 14:2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
Lev 14:3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;

Notice the leper shall be brought to the Priest but the Priest must go out of the camp unto the Leper to inspect him. See the leper is brought to the gate (meaning brought to the Priest) and the Priest then must go out to inspect him.

Also, look at who Lazarus is related to in the scriptures. Martha and Mary.

Mat 26:6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,

Mar 14:3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.

Joh 11:1 Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.

If you read about the house of Simon the Leper, you will notice that Mary and Martha are serving in the house.
Hey Paul I liked what you found here, whether LC likes the way you used SCRIPTURE as she asked for or not.

1+1 always = 2
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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Hey Paul I liked what you found here, whether LC likes the way you used SCRIPTURE as she asked for or not.

1+1 always = 2
There is much more Pneuma! Praise God, brother.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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Lepers don't have open sores for dogs to lick. I think posters here are unfamiliar with the disease.

What is the point of speculating who the rich man might have been and who Lazarus might have been? They were people, and one ended up on bad side of Hades, and the other on the good side.

The point of the parable is to teach that you need to listen to "Moses and the prophets, and repent" so they would not end up in the bad side.

Rich man to Abraham: "‘I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house; for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, so they won’t also come into this place of torment."

Abraham: "They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them."

Rich man: "He said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’

Clearly, at this point the Rich Man KNEW he was in the bad side because he did not believe in Christ. He knew what would have kept him out of the bad side, and he wanted his brothers to learn the truth. However, Abraham said the truth is already available to them, and all they need to do is listen, repent and accept Christ.

"If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?" John 5:46-47
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