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Old 05-25-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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It seems that the words that are used to describe what the scriptures are have been mingled with phrases that are talking about something different so that when one sees the phrase 'word of God' and 'word of truth' it is interpreted to mean the written scriptures. I believe that if the scriptures are being referred to that is exactly the word that we will see used, if the phrase 'word of God' or 'word of truth' is used it is referring to the spiritual that reveals what is written in the scriptures ............
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:36 AM
 
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It seems that the words that are used to describe what the scriptures are have been mingled with phrases that are talking about something different so that when one sees the phrase 'word of God' and 'word of truth' it is interpreted to mean the written scriptures. I believe that if the scriptures are being referred to that is exactly the word that we will see used, if the phrase 'word of God' or 'word of truth' is used it is referring to the spiritual that reveals what is written in the scriptures ............
I agree ...
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:49 AM
 
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me too
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Old 05-26-2010, 04:16 AM
 
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I believe the scriptures are inspired , God breathed and testify's of Jesus (John 5 verse 39) . What i do not believe is that God is a bible , i love the scriptures but worship the Author of them.

The scribes and the pharisees actuallly believed that by diligently studying them they had eternal life . This sounds very much the same sentiment to what is being said by some on here.

You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me. John 5 verse 39
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:50 AM
 
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I love the scriptures but worship the Author of them.
There you go.

God certainly speaks through the written word, but also a myriad of other ways. (Job 33:14)
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:11 AM
 
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It seems that the words that are used to describe what the scriptures are have been mingled with phrases that are talking about something different so that when one sees the phrase 'word of God' and 'word of truth' it is interpreted to mean the written scriptures. I believe that if the scriptures are being referred to that is exactly the word that we will see used, if the phrase 'word of God' or 'word of truth' is used it is referring to the spiritual that reveals what is written in the scriptures ............
Good morning meerkat...

Scripture states the clear and simple way that faith comes to us:

...We receive God's faith through His Word.

..."So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." (Romans 10:17)

God's word is two things: It is the written Word, and it is the living Word. We have God's FAITH when His LIVING WORD is living in us!

The living Word never changes, for it is eternal. It always IS, As never before we need to understand that God's Word is eternal, that it does not have beginning of life and that it has no ending. It is not just something people have written about God even under the influence of the Holy Spirit; It is God Himself.

God Himself has no beginning and no ending. You cannot separate God from His Word. God and His Word are one.

In the New Testament there are two Greek words which are translated into "word." While both of these expressions mean "word," each has its own specific distinct meaning. One of these Greek words is "logos." The other is "rhema."

The "logos" means that which goes beyond the spoken and the written word. The Greek lexicon tells us that it gives depth of meaning far beyond that which is written and that which is spoken. It denotes an extension and an expression of that which comes not from the lips and that which comes not from the pen, but that which comes from the mind.

It is the mind where the concept of thought and the concept of intelligence begin. The word "logos" gives us the understanding of that which goes beyond the spoken or the written word. It is implied to us by the Holy Spirit that this is something which is self-existent. In other words, it has no beginning of days and it has no end of life. It is self-existent. It is an intelligence. It is a being that stands all by itself. The Logos is that self-existent power we know to be the Word Himself, the Living Word of God...Christ.

"Rhema" is a word from God which is an extension of the Logos for the Logos is not the spoken or the written word. Rhema is that spoken and that written Word that comes to us out of the suggestions of the mind of God. "Rhema" is derived from a verb and it means "ACTION." It means "to speak" or "to speak a word."

Rhema comes from the very strength of the Logos Himself. As the Rhema is the spoken Word, this Logos is the expression of the mind of God. It is God Himself...when we receive it, we are not receiving words of man but we are receiving thoughts from God.

In Christ's love...In His truth,
Verna.

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Old 05-26-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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Good morning meerkat...

Scripture states the clear and simple way that faith comes to us:

...We receive God's faith through His Word.

..."So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." (Romans 10:17)

God's word is two things: It is the written Word, and it is the living Word. We have God's FAITH when His LIVING WORD is living in us!

The living Word never changes, for it is eternal. It always IS, As never before we need to understand that God's Word is eternal, that it does not have beginning of life and that it has no ending. It is not just something people have written about God even under the influence of the Holy Spirit; It is God Himself.

God Himself has no beginning and no ending. You cannot separate God from His Word. God and His Word are one.

In the New Testament there are two Greek words which are translated into "word." While both of these expressions mean "word," each has its own specific distinct meaning. One of these Greek words is "logos." The other is "rhema."

The "logos" means that which goes beyond the spoken and the written word. The Greek lexicon tells us that it gives depth of meaning far beyond that which is written and that which is spoken. It denotes an extension and an expression of that which comes not from the lips and that which comes not from the pen, but that which comes from the mind.

It is the mind where the concept of thought and the concept of intelligence begin. The word "logos" gives us the understanding of that which goes beyond the spoken or the written word. It is implied to us by the Holy Spirit that this is something which is self-existent. In other words, it has no beginning of days and it has no end of life. It is self-existent. It is an intelligence. It is a being that stands all by itself. The Logos is that self-existent power we know to be the Word Himself, the Living Word of God...Christ.

"Rhema" is a word from God which is an extension of the Logos for the Logos is not the spoken or the written word. Rhema is that spoken and that written Word that comes to us out of the suggestions of the mind of God. "Rhema" is derived from a verb and it means "ACTION." It means "to speak" or "to speak a word."

Rhema comes from the very strength of the Logos Himself. As the Rhema is the spoken Word, this Logos is the expression of the mind of God. It is God Himself...when we receive it, we are not receiving words of man but we are receiving thoughts from God.

In Christ's love...In His truth,
Verna.
This is a fine study, Verna . . . it is so sad that you do not seem to understand what it says because of your indoctrination under the precepts and doctrines of men. The only way we can receive thoughts from God is through our minds and the Holy Spirit within revealing what God has written in our hearts. Spiritual to spiritual means thoughts to thoughts . . . nothing about words "written in ink." Spiritually discerning means using the mind of Christ who abides in us and we in Him.
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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Good morning meerkat...

Scripture states the clear and simple way that faith comes to us:

...We receive God's faith through His Word.

..."So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." (Romans 10:17)

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Faith comes by 'hearing' the 'word of God' --- Jesus says let him who has ears 'hear' he does not mean physical ears
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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Jesus - the Word.

We live in a society where most (not all) people have access to a bible, and have the ability to read - but it's no so for many, nor has it always been this way.

But all them that are the children of God will be led by the Spirit of God. (Rom 8:14)
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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Jesus - the Word.

We live in a society where most (not all) people have access to a bible, and have the ability to read - but it's no so for many, nor has it always been this way.

But all them that are the children of God will be led by the Spirit of God. (Rom 8:14)
Amen LE, it was not untill the 1500 (I beleive) that the bible was printed in great qauntity.

Do people honestly beleive God never spoke to people before the bible was so printed.


After all Moses and all those of old times never had a bible and God most surely spoke to them, even if they did not understand all that He said.
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