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Old 07-04-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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You test the Spirit of what is being spoken or written through that which holds no bias.
Without a prejudice in favor of, or against one thing (person or group) when compared
with that of another.
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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You test the Spirit of what is being spoken or written through that which holds no bias.
Without a prejudice in favor of, or against one thing (person or group) when compared
with that of another.
True,and what is that spirit tested against? It can't be against itself, or our spirit, it needs an unbiased "touchstone" as it were. The Bible. Any other way is biased and not trust worthy as i,t will end up by being what is right in that persons mind.
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Old 07-04-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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In Watchtower's publication, You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, 1989, page 190 under the heading ONE TRUE RELIGION, it asks a question regarding who are the ones who form the body of true worshipers today? Then, it answers this question stating without hesitation that the Jehovah's Witnesses are true worshipers of God.
What is your feeling about them believing that they are the only true religion or worshipers of God?
For me, the bible doesn't teach that there is only one true religion, but it does teach that Jesus is the way the truth, and the life, and no man can come to the Father, but by Him John 14:6. Did they some how leap frog over Jesus to think that they only way to God is through the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society better known as Jehovah's Witnesses?
First of all, why would any person belong to a religion unless they believed it was the right one ?

What did Jesus teach at John 4:23-24 about worship ?

Jehovah
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Old 07-04-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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True,and what is that spirit tested against? It can't be against itself, or our spirit, it needs an unbiased "touchstone" as it were. The Bible. Any other way is biased and not trust worthy as i,t will end up by being what is right in that persons mind.
The spirit is tested against the TWO greatest commandments Jesus gave us--

LOVE GOD

LOVE NEIGHBOR
Summarized here for the evangelical fundies who find comprehension difficult---

SIMPLY LOVE of COURSE...
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Old 07-04-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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The spirit is tested against the TWO greatest commandments Jesus gave us--

LOVE GOD

LOVE NEIGHBOR
Summarized here for the evangelical fundies who find comprehension difficult---

SIMPLY LOVE of COURSE...
Please show where that is specifically stated in Scripture?

Next, genuine Agape love would be shown by a voiding terms like "ignorant barbarians", "Fundamentalists", a lack respect for God's written word by picking and choosing what they believe is true instead of acting like the exemplar when it comes to such love, Jesus. Just claiming to have God' spirit and having Love is no evidence of actually having it, especially if such attacks and denigration of scripture listed above is shown.

Not understanding what is written in Scripture as an accurate message of love from God, also shows a lack of God's spirit OR the one claiming it would know what some events are listed and why they "look" unloving but in actuality are loving.
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Old 07-04-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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You test the Spirit of what is being spoken or written through that which holds no bias.
Without a prejudice in favor of, or against one thing (person or group) when compared
with that of another.
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True, and what is that spirit tested against? It can't be against itself, or our spirit, it needs an unbiased "touchstone" as it were. The Bible. Any other way is biased and not trust worthy, as it will end up being what is right in that persons mind.
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Not understanding what is written in Scripture as an accurate message of love from God, also shows a lack of God's spirit OR the one claiming it would know what some events are listed and why they "look" unloving but in actuality are loving.
Which touchstone shall we use:

1) Annihiliatism.
2) Eternal torment.
3) Reconciliation.

Which is the most loving benchmark, or that which serves a better purpose?
We do not kill or torment our children, just because they missed the mark?

We lovingly correct them, even if it appears like fire and brimstone.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:49 PM
 
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Please show where that is specifically stated in Scripture?
Next, genuine Agape love would be shown by a voiding terms like "ignorant barbarians", "Fundamentalists", a lack respect for God's written word by picking and choosing what they believe is true instead of acting like the exemplar when it comes to such love, Jesus. Just claiming to have God' spirit and having Love is no evidence of actually having it, especially if such attacks and denigration of scripture listed above is shown.
Not understanding what is written in Scripture as an accurate message of love from God, also shows a lack of God's spirit OR the one claiming it would know what some events are listed and why they "look" unloving but in actuality are loving.
What your posts literally scream is a love for the Bible and scriptures . . . NOT God. Your reverence for those products of human fallibility is unwarranted and is what corrupts your understanding of God and Jesus. You keep looking in the scriptures because you think in them to find eonian life . . . but they speak of Christ and He is who you should focus your reverence and love on. Remember that verse??? You are to believe Christ . . .not the words "written in ink." Christ abides with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has laready "written in our hearts." you do not trust your heart . . . you trust a book.
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:19 PM
 
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"The Body of Christ" (Those with a re-born Spirit, with the "Holy Spirit" of God) are scattered all over the Planet and in no particular "only" religion. It's not religions that save you, it's God's Son who sends His Father's Holy Spirit to come "CHANGE" YOU!

~repent World!
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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Which touchstone shall we use:

1) Annihiliatism.
2) Eternal torment.
3) Reconciliation.

Which is the most loving benchmark, or that which serves a better purpose?
We do not kill or torment our children, just because they missed the mark?

We lovingly correct them, even if it appears like fire and brimstone.
No, you test them against Scripture too. ALL scripture is in agreement, you a doctrine on one verse.

So that lets eternal torment out and reconciliation for everyone. Some yes and likely the vast majority of all that have ever lived, but everyone, nope. They are just gone and not around to bother anyone. Kinda like sending a kid to his room when he creates a problem. When he gets older if he stays really bad, he is booted out in love for the other family members who could be hurt and is evidence that one rejected your love and does not love you in return.
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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No, you test them against Scripture too. ALL scripture is in agreement, you a doctrine on one verse.

So that lets eternal torment out and reconciliation for everyone. Some yes and likely the vast majority of all that have ever lived, but everyone, nope. They are just gone and not around to bother anyone. Kinda like sending a kid to his room when he creates a problem. When he gets older if he stays really bad, he is booted out in love for the other family members who could be hurt and is evidence that one rejected your love and does not love you in return.
Tough love does not mean - boot them out in the cold of darkness.
Have you ever held someone in your arms without expectations?

I would leave the ninety-nine family member's for the benefit of the one.
It has to do with my love for them - not because - they reciprocated it.

Your touchstone is one of death, not that of life.
Thanks, but no thanks.
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