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Old 07-13-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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So you choose to ignore the fascism of the pro-gay Nazi crowd?
Sorry. I'm not going to answer this question.

The Nazis murdered tens of thousands of gay men. For no reason other than their homosexuality. MURDERED THEM. Equating people who support the LGBT community with Nazis is just too ugly for me. It also makes no sense.

I'd invite you to learn what happened to those men. They were someone's sons and bothers and friends. They were children of God.

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Old 07-13-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: RV Park
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This may come across as extreme, but if you're not fully trusting Him for your salvation (100% grace) and are living under law - are you really saved?

A mixture of the two does not count for trusting, btw.

I truly believe if ministers preached that God is not holding men's sins against them (2 Cor 5:19) instead of telling people they're going to hell, we would experience the biggest harvest in history. Moses and Jesus illustrated this perfectly, as when one came down Mt. Sinai the people ran away - the Other came down the Mt of Transfiguration and the people ran to Him!
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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This may come across as extreme, but if you're not fully trusting Him for your salvation (100% grace) and are living under law - are you really saved?

A mixture of the two does not count for trusting, btw.

I truly believe if ministers preached that God is not holding men's sins against them (2 Cor 5:19) instead of telling people they're going to hell, we would experience the biggest harvest in history. Moses and Jesus illustrated this perfectly, as when one came down Mt. Sinai the people ran away - the Other came down the Mt of Transfiguration and the people ran to Him!
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what ...? Scriptures has it written that after the transfiguration
when they came down from the mountain, a large crowd met him.... “You unbelieving and perverse generation,” Jesus replied Luke 9
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As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them, “Don’t tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.” Matthew 17
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As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus gave them orders not to tell anyone what they had seen until the Son of Man had risen from the dead Mark 9
The people who came to meet him, Jesus tells them outright that they are unbelieving and perverse and the disciples were in fact not to say anything about what they say .... which what they saw was Jesus, not as a humble man, but the proof of him being God.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Sorry. I'm not going to answer this question. There's just too much antagonism and name calling.

The Nazis murdered tens of thousands of gay men. For no reason other than their homosexuality. MURDERED THEM. Equating people who support the LGBT community with Nazism is just too ugly for me. It also makes no sense.

I'd invite you to learn what happened to those men. They were someone's sons and bothers and friends. They were children of God.
First of all, we get called bigots, fascists, haters, etc. every day. We see Christian groups get accused of being accessories every time there is violence against a gay person.

I'm speaking in reference to the fascism that the Nazis employed. Not the murder. It's very similar to the thought-police tactics that we see today by the pro-gay crowd. Anytime anyone dares to speak up and speak negatively against the behavior, we see fascists shouting them down. That is what I'm referring to.

So again---you choose to ignore the fascism of the pro-gay crowd?
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:38 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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First of all, we get called bigots, fascists, haters, etc. every day. We see Christian groups get accused of being accessories every time there is violence against a gay person.

I'm speaking in reference to the fascism that the Nazis employed. Not the murder. It's very similar to the thought-police tactics that we see today by the pro-gay crowd. Anytime anyone dares to speak up and speak negatively against the behavior, we see fascists shouting them down. That is what I'm referring to.

So again---you choose to ignore the fascism of the pro-gay crowd?
Yet another mealy-mouthed Vizio non-explanation for a hateful post.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:46 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Yet another mealy-mouthed Vizio non-explanation for a hateful post.
Coming from the god of me ...you're all the proof Vizio needs.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:48 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Coming from the god of me ...you're all the proof Vizio needs.
Bless you, twin.

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Old 07-13-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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Default "A Camp David Accord" Attempt To Put This Universalist and Eternal Torture Debate To End

Well it seems this thread was ultimately as unsuccessful as the "Camp David Accords" in reducing Palestinian and Israeli violence against each other . . . especially since it seems to have been hijacked by the anti-gay crowd.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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Well it seems this thread was ultimately as unsuccessful as the "Camp David Accords" in reducing Palestinian and Israeli violence against each other . . . especially since it seems to have been hijacked by the anti-gay crowd.
And more to the point the anti Christ crowd
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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It is clear that carnal thinking dominates the majority view of scripture . . . not spiritual. The Bible is entirely scriptural and chronicles the spiritual evolution of understanding our loving Father and His Son Jesus the Christ. It describes our early experiences as infant Spirits trying to learn. The Schoolmaster stage was focused on trying to tame our savagery and teach us self-control and discipline using fear of God as the beginning of wisdom. Unfortunately that caused us to develop a real fear of God and a lot of misunderstanding ("missing the mark") due to our ignorance in reading the OT. By the time of Christ we had developed the self-control to learn the real reason for the commandments . . . to "love God and each other." Christ came to lift the veil of ignorance (blind minds) over reading the OT and reveal the TRUE NATURE of God unambiguously by His life, teachings, and ultimately His death. He sacrificed His life to the sins ("missing the mark" of our savage ancestors) because "No greater love . . ." But our ignorant ancestors and their religious leaders could not let go of the mistaken view of God from the OT . . . so they eventually corrupted Christ's message of love into one of appeasement of a jealous, vengeful; angry God who needed blood sacrifice to assuage His Holiness or so-called justice. This has become the main anti-Christ message that was prophesied to become the majority belief in the "latter days" (2000+ years later is certainly "latter.")

The carnal thinking can be seen in the hijacking of this thread to fundamentalist over concern about physical acts of sexual behavior. What have sexual acts to do with our spiritual development and maturity???? Sin is a spiritual problem involving what is in our consciousness in the way of motivations and intentions . . .our state of mind as either reflecting "love of God and each other" . . . or NOT.

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