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View Poll Results: Do you believe in a 3-in-1 God?
Yes 45 57.69%
No 33 42.31%
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:19 AM
 
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I am Gnostic but first in fact Trinity does exist, but i tell you mostly of modern translation are wrong check KJV 1 john 5:7 , 1 john 5:7 clearly say Jesus is God, I disagree with Major Modern Translations but KJV is better
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:36 AM
 
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The Father and Son are in continual and constant communion. The Holy Spirit is the personification of the relationsip between the Father and the Son.

The only difference between the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost is how humans relate to each one.

The Father is remote to humanity. The Son is the intercessor. The Holy Spirit turns us to the Son.

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Last edited by Miss Blue; 08-30-2010 at 10:40 AM.. Reason: your joke wasn't funny but very off topic
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:40 AM
 
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I am Gnostic but first in fact Trinity does exist, but i tell you mostly of modern translation are wrong check KJV 1 john 5:7 , 1 john 5:7 clearly say Jesus is God, I disagree with Major Modern Translations but KJV is better
Yes. That verse is very important in revealing how the KJV is the truest translation. Untainted by The Vatican.

Most other translations omit the testimony from heaven.

Just for the record, I came to believe that Jesus of Nazareth was God Incarnate whilst studying the TNIV which also omits the heavenly testimony.

I now study from KJV.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:07 AM
 
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The Trinity as one separate being does not exist.

There is our dearest and loving Heavenly Father.

There is His highest spirit, the Holy Spirit, the instrument, or messenger, which brings to our souls His Divine Love.

There is Jesus the messiah, who was the first man transformed on earth into a divine man, and who is the highest spirit and Master of the Celestial Heavens.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:10 AM
 
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No..I have always believed that God is almighty, all love, never changing..

Christ is the Son out of God, not God but a part of God, and in perfect harmony with God.

I believe that the Holy Spirit is our guide, teacher, also out of God, not God..

The three are a perfect community, separate yet in perfect harmony with each other and the example of what the church(the bride) should be..No human headship, no human authority, no man made religions, creeds or rules..

jmho

--great understanding!
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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Yes I also really LOVE what Miss Blue quoted. The ENTIRETY of her post~!
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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This is really not a yes/no question in my understanding since person hood resides entirely in consciousness which is Spirit . . . not physical. God the Father is everything that is including His Cosmic Consciousness (Holy Spirit) that establishes our reality . . . just as we are both our body and our human consciousness (spirit). When Jesus was born 100% human He possessed a body and a human consciousness just like us. His baptism by John marked the acknowledgment by God that He possessed the Holy Spirit in His human consciousness. His death and rebirth as Spirit made His Holy Spirit a part of the human collective consciousness and available for us ALL in our consciousnesses.

Consciousness is substantive and substance . . . NOT ephemeral. For example the naming by Adam was a substantive event. Names are cognitive constructs that have "substance" in spirit as are ALL such cognitive creations. Therefore the names God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are separate . . . but since they ALL have the same consciousness . . . they are ONE . . . as we will be eventually.

This is poorly understood . . . as we tend to think of our cognitive output as ephemeral (just our thoughts, feelings and ideas). It is NOT! As pure consciousness energy . . . everything we have ever thought, felt, etc. is "substantive" and part of what makes up our cumulative spiritual "substance" or soul . . . It is eternal unless transformed in some way. The only way our thoughts, feelings, ideas, beliefs, etc. can be transformed is by our brain (a-la-repentance) . . . or by God's consuming fire (Cosmic Consciousness) after our death and rebirth as Spirit.
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