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Even if they did, they have the Jesus given Authority to do so. They, after all, have the keys to the kingdom of heaven. So, ultimately, if they say it, you better believe it because the gates of hell will not prevail against it and no other man-made church, which is every protestant church, has the same protection given to the Catholic Church by Jesus Christ.
I agree, but you are fighting a losing battle against the bible-thumpers, and their anti-Catholic prejudices.
I agree, but you are fighting a losing battle against the bible-thumpers, and their anti-Catholic prejudices.
In this particular case, it is not prejudice, but one of the reasons for the prejudice: the presumption of the Roman Denomination that their organization, structure is the church. Not all prejudices are without any basis whatsoever, and the Roman Organization itself has much to account for. Most Catholics realize this and there have been formal apologies from the Vatican for a few of the things.
In this particular case, it is not prejudice, but one of the reasons for the prejudice: the presumption of the Roman Denomination that their organization, structure is the church. Not all prejudices are without any basis whatsoever, and the Roman Organization itself has much to account for. Most Catholics realize this and there have been formal apologies from the Vatican for a few of the things.
"Roman organization" ????? That speaks volumes about your mindset.
"Roman organization" ????? That speaks volumes about your mindset.
I am trying to distinguish between the institution itself and it's members which would be the Roman Church. Sorry if that doesn't strike you as respectful.......you have it right, I don't have a lot of respect for the institution.
THE CHURCH HAS REMOVED NO COMMANDMENT FROM THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.
The Catholic Bible is accuratelly translated from the original Hebrew version.
The Bible, in the original text, has no punctuation and numbering of the verses. Therefore, the division of the Commandments is conventional and depends from which of the 3 traditions it referes to:
1.The eastern christian tradition based on the book of Exodus, which consideres the prohibitions of desiring the woman and the property of others as one comandment, and so the prohibitions of having more than one God and of worshiping idols are considered two commandments.
This tradition was adopted by the Orthodox Church, and later by most of the protestants.
2.The agostinian western christian tradition based on the book of Deutoronomy, which consideres the prohibitions of desiring the woman and the property of others as two comandments, and so the prophibitions of having more than one God and of worshiping idols are considered one commandment.
This tradition was adopted by the Catholic Church, and later by the lutheran protestants
3.In the jewish list of the 10 commandments the first is "I am the L-rd, your G-d..." and the second is the Prohibition of Improper Worship which combine the prohibition to worship other gods and that of making idols like the first commandment of the catholic list.
The conspiracy theory of the Catholic Church to have altered the 10 commandments to be able to use the images is a lie for 2 reasons.
The first reason is that the Lutheran church, which does not allow the use of images, uses the same 10 commandments of the Catholic Church.
The second reason is that the Orthodox Church is among the churches that consider the prohibition of the idolatry of the images as the third commandment, and it has never had any problem in using images because the veneration of saints and the use of images as a means of religious teaching isn’t idolatry.
So the questions are:
Why the Catholic Church is accused of having "cleared" the commandment of not worshiping idols , while the Orthodox Church, which specifically mentions this prohibition, uses images exactly like the Catholic Church?
Why did the Protestant Lutheran church adopt the division of the 10 Commandments of the Catholic Church, despite not using the images?
Should the jews be accused of having removed the second commandment and split the first like the catholics who are accused of having removed the same commandment and split the 10th?
The contradictions in this conspiracy theory are evident. It is pure fiction, like the Da Vinci Code.
In this regard, it is useful to bear in mind that the same synagogues in the first centuries after Christ had not infrequently images. Very interesting is the site of Dura Europos , of the 3rd century AD , in Syria, where were found both a synagogue, which was totally covered with frescoes representing scenes from the Old Testament, and an ancient house-church, which was also painted.
There is no biblical evidence that it is forbidden to use images as a mean of religius teaching or to honor people with statues. If yow make a statue of George Washington to honor him and remind his example you don't worship him as a God. If I ask you to pray God for me I am not worshipping you as God , ans so it is if I ask a saint to do the same.
WHEN AN ACCURATE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED, LIES ARE EASILY EXPOSED
I understand that they deleted the 2nd "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" and separated the 10th into two to make ten. This allows them to have their idol worship. I don't blame the people as the deception came from their leaders.
FYI - every year new Bibles are printed and every year, whoever is printing them(Most likely Catholics and Protestants at this present time) are taking things out. FACT. They've been doing this since the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
The BEST Bible you can ever own in your entire lifetime is the King James 1611 Version Bible. It's the one that was Authorized and overseen by King James himself. It has the MOST accurate information and includes ALL the Books of the Bible. nothing is left out.
* The KJV 1611 Bible costs about $200 bucks now, why? because those that know the truth want YOU to pay for it. ....or you can just cust corners and go by a $12 dollar NIV that's missing quite a bit of information and remain in the dark on a LOT of things.
* The KJV 1611 Bible costs about $200 bucks now, why? because those that know the truth want YOU to pay for it. ....or you can just cust corners and go by a $12 dollar NIV that's missing quite a bit of information and remain in the dark on a LOT of things.
Nonsense. The 400th Anniversary Edition of the KJV 1611 Bible is available on Amazon for $17.98.
FYI - every year new Bibles are printed and every year, whoever is printing them(Most likely Catholics and Protestants at this present time) are taking things out. FACT. They've been doing this since the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
The BEST Bible you can ever own in your entire lifetime is the King James 1611 Version Bible. It's the one that was Authorized and overseen by King James himself. It has the MOST accurate information and includes ALL the Books of the Bible. nothing is left out.
* The KJV 1611 Bible costs about $200 bucks now, why? because those that know the truth want YOU to pay for it. ....or you can just cust corners and go by a $12 dollar NIV that's missing quite a bit of information and remain in the dark on a LOT of things.
The 1611 KJV while a good Bible is not that good. It has errors and contains bias. In fact they were ordered to use "Church" instead of the more accurate "congregation". The translation was based on limited manuscripts and ones with additions and alterations. Further discoveries of far older manuscripts show this clearly. A good translation and one of my favorites, yes, the best, no.It also contains the Apocrypha and that is known as interesting reading, but not Scripture.
Oh the KJV took something very important out of the Bible almost 7000 times. God's name, leaving it only in 4 of the nearly 7000 places it appears in scripture. Not good at all and they KNEW they were doing it.
The 1611 KJV while a good Bible is not that good. It has errors and contains bias. In fact they were ordered to use "Church" instead of the more accurate "congregation". The translation was based on limited manuscripts and ones with additions and alterations. Further discoveries of far older manuscripts show this clearly. A good translation and one of my favorites, yes, the best, no.It also contains the Apocrypha and that is known as interesting reading, but not Scripture.
Oh the KJV took something very important out of the Bible almost 7000 times. God's name, leaving it only in 4 of the nearly 7000 places it appears in scripture. Not good at all and they KNEW they were doing it.
Ps 83;18.
It's the BEST one anyone can own. all the other variations have entire books taken out by the Protestants and words taken out that have great significance like the identity of Yeshua and King James. these are important facts that have been taken out.
the REAL question is....WHY would the Protestants take ANY BOOKS out? control and indoctrinate the population maybe? I think so.
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control and indoctrinate the population maybe? I think so.
