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Old 06-11-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Its not bashing when its the truth. Catholics want to have boasting rights in Heaven whether they acknowledge it or not. If anyone makes it to Heaven because of their religious lifestyle then they can boast about it. Also, the problem with that idea is that where is Jesus in all of it? Where do you see Jesus in the life of a religious purpose who believes they are maintaining their salvation by their works? Is the death and resurrection of the Son of God not enough to save us forever? Well according to Catholicism it isn't because if they believed it was there wouldn't even be a catholic religion or any Christian religion. God is not demanding anything from us. He wants us to rest in the finished work not work in the finished work. Why is it so hard to believe that Jesus did it all because He loves us? Why is it so hard to believe Romans 5:19 and John 3:16?
Sorry, this diatribe makes no sense to me, although I never have once considered having "boasting rights in heaven." Whatever that means!
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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Sorry, this diatribe makes no sense to me, although I never have once considered having "boasting rights in heaven." Whatever that means!
That explains a lot about you.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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Why would you call anything bashing when one just posted nothing but facts? Here is another thing for you to know...I was raised Catholic, so it isn't like I am complete ignorant of the teachings.

You would be the president of said part of know nothings.
Rather unlikely as president, since they were rabidly anti-Catholic; you know, like some on this forum.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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Sorry, this diatribe makes no sense to me, although I never have once considered having "boasting rights in heaven." Whatever that means!
Do you believe God judges believers based on them or based on His Son Jesus? If you believe God judges us based on us, then you have something to boast about if you make it into Heaven.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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That explains a lot about you.
You really have ALL the answers, don't you? You know absolutely nothing about me.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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Do you believe God judges believers based on them or based on His Son Jesus? If you believe God judges us based on us, then you have something to boast about if you make it into Heaven.
IF,and that's IF I squeeze into heaven, I haven't the least interest in boasting. Do you?
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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Folks, there is no where in the bible where Jesus says that now that you are saved by his blood, you no longer have to obey any of Gods commands. Works don't save your soul, but when you get saved and follow Jesus, it causes you to do great works.


These verses are 1000% proof that you cant live these lifestyle and get into the kingdom of heaven, so being saved does require you to live a holy life. Works wont save you with out faith in Jesus Christ, but Faith without works is DEAD.


Galatians 5:19-21
New King James Version (NKJV)
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[a] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[b] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.


Ephesians 5:5
5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.


Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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IF,and that's IF I squeeze into heaven, I haven't the least interest in boasting. Do you?
What do you mean if? Do you believe in Jesus and His finished work at the cross? If you do then you're saved. No one squeezes into Heaven. Everyone who ends up in Heaven is there simply because they believe in Jesus.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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I understand that they deleted the 2nd "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" and separated the 10th into two to make ten. This allows them to have their idol worship. I don't blame the people as the deception came from their leaders.
Yes. They did.
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