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Old 06-02-2010, 07:30 AM
 
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Mike,

Not only does the Lord know those that are his, but furthermore, the scriptures say he will lose none that the Father has given him and that NO ONE can pluck them out of his hand. Isn't that enough for you? These scriptures alone ought to show you that you need not worry that the Lord will lose anything the Father has given him. Do you believe this? Have faith in God. Be not faithless, but believing. Your focus is on Mike and what Mike thinks. You have no right to condemn one single soul for whom Christ died.

Heartsong


p.s. You certainly have not been persecuted on this board just because people do not agree with your views. To imply that you have been persecuted for righteousness sake is an insult to those around the globe who really are persecuted. American Christians have no clue what real persecution is.
By His own declaration, it is Jesus Christ Himself who will personally order into the eternal fire, those who reject Him as Savior.

To ignore and reject the word of God is an insult to God.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:34 AM
 
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Excellent post Mike.
Thanks.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:34 AM
 
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John 3:16 ''For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

And what are we supposed to do with this eternal life?And what wont get kinda boring after an eternity doing the same old stuff everyday?As an example how many years would it take you to get bored of living your current life?100,1000,a million.
Not trying to be disrespectful,just curious.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:39 AM
 
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IMO, this OP is misleading. Because Mike uses Matthew 25:41.

This whole thing from verse 31-46 is talking about JUDGEMENT. So, this is where you should be looking for you answers.

First off we see Jesus on the throne, of a KING. 31

ALL the nations are brought before Him. 32

He then SEPARATES them!! Hear this? Anyone? He separates the NATIONS. Why? 32

Then what happens next?

In verse 33 we see 2 classes of people. Sheep and goats. Sheep on the right and goats on the left.

Who are the SHEEP????

They were righteous. 37
They ARE blessed by the Father Himself!! 34

No one is righteous, no NOT ONE! So how are they made righteous? Through Jesus Christ our LORD!! By His Blood we are made clean, correct?

But, WAIT!!! Is that it? Is it now time to waltz on in?? Is this what Jesus says?

NO!!!!

He then goes on to explain WHY they get to inherit the Kingdom. Why?

Because they WORKED!!

They FED FOOD. They gave WATER. They HOUSED. They CLOTHED. They VISITED!

THIS is WHY!

So, what DID JESUS DO to those who DID NOT and tell me you can sit on your laurals and 'think' you are waltzing right in.

And if you think this is some sort of a analogy, or a parable, then you are sadly mistaken. It is as plain as plain can be. BY THEIR FRUITS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. PERIOD.


Personally, I feel as though there will be a ton of 'goats' who thought they were sheep. But sheep FOLLOW the voice of their Shepherd, and DO what is COMMANDED of them.

What saith you? Are you following or making a path for yourself devouring everything in sight, like a goat? Or being an obedient sheep who is dining with Him?
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:39 AM
 
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Some great posts here Mike so you can expect some to try to tear it apart, but God will use it His glory!!!
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:52 AM
 
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Some great posts here Mike so you can expect some to try to tear it apart, but God will use it His glory!!!
Really? Jesus tore it apart all by Himself, thank you.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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Some great posts here Mike so you can expect some to try to tear it apart, but God will use it His glory!!!
The problem is what goes on in so many churches, congregations full of people who actually believe and their belief is questioned by self proclaimed judges like Mike who proclaim that most of the congregation is damned to hell because they do not measure up to the accuser.

But this is also why there is so much confusion over salvation, so many sects, so many ideas on what salvation really is.

If the teachings you believe teach that some who say they believe, really are not saved, and therefore damned to hell and uncorrectable, then it is as easily you and mike who "Say" they believe "do things" in Jeuss name, but will also hear "depart".


It is upon this realization of truth that the character of God is seen for what it is.

When you realize that character, you will realize that all humanity is in the same boat as you and therefore either all are damned with no hope, or there is ALWAYS HOPE.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:57 AM
 
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Like I said Mike, expect people to try to tear it apart.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:02 AM
 
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Like I said Mike, expect people to try to tear it apart.
Well, it was easy.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:04 AM
 
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Like I said Mike, expect people to try to tear it apart.
People don't need to.

Read the Bible!

Jesus tore that doctrine apart all by Himself, as it is His right to do, as King. So unless you have some special insight to the verses I posted above, then really what you and Mike are doing is refuting Jesus Himself.

Good luck with that.
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