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Old 06-04-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Yes, I have on a number of occations.





There is no death in hell either, sooooo......
sooooo..... both believers and unbelievers have eternal life. Is that what you believe? That goes against what some say but you seem to think hell is the equivalent to eternal life in torment....

Soooooo....
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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Thanks. I have already checked, and eternity means eternity.

You mean this definition?

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an endless or seemingly endless period of time: We had to wait an eternity for the check to arrive.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: RV Park
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Eternity works in reverse, too.

Are we there yet?
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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sooooo..... both believers and unbelievers have eternal life. Is that what you believe? That goes against what some say but you seem to think hell is the equivalent to eternal life in torment....
Yes, believeres have eternal life in heaven, and unbelievers have it in hell.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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You mean this definition?
No.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Revelation also says:

Revelation 19:9
Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!' " And he added, "These are the true words of God."

Do you plan to attend the wedding supper of a baby sheep? Of course not! Revelation is full of symbolism and the lake of fire is one of the symbols. Fire can't burn in a lake, anyway, so even its very name proves that it's symbolic.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Fire can't burn in a lake, anyway, so even its very name proves that it's symbolic.
Lake of magma burns.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: RV Park
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Lake of magma burns.
Brimstone purifies.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:37 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Thanks. I have already checked, and eternity means eternity.

And yes, God is saviour of all men. All you gotta do is allow him to save you.

PS. Since there is no such thing as eternity, then how long will you be in heaven until you seize to exist?
That is the point that seems to go by the wayside....if there is no eternity\eternal\everlasting about hell, then heaven isn't either (eternity\eternal\everlasting).

The point of the spear (so to speak), the message of UR is that there is no absolutes about what a saving faith is required by God. I can not think of anything less loving than a message of apathy for the unbeliever. UR removes accountability for unbelief.
What it's really saying is"
  • "God loves you, so believe whatever, whenever or not at all; ultimately it doesn't matter."
  • " Jesus (when quoted) 'Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.' is ultimately saying this out of pure fear mongering..there is no eternal hell, or hell (or whatever the reason)
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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That is the point that seems to go by the wayside....if there is no eternity\eternal\everlasting about hell, then heaven isn't either (eternity\eternal\everlasting).


No, it doesn't go to the wayside, you simply disagree with the explanation. Big difference.


We put on immortality, the bible speaks of a new heaven and new earth and the bible is full of descriptions of periods of time.

Heaven doesn't need to be eternal if our immortal existance is beyond an existance in a place called heaven.
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