What are your thoughts on Cincy, OH? (Cincinnati, Dayton: upper-class, obgyn)

[zorst]

Originally Posted by Re Ankh

The people here are either mean, snobby, fearful, aloof, homely/plain, bigot, or just idiot.

You just insulted me. Do you need a hug? Or do you just have low self esteem? I could go on for hours of stories that just put all of these acusations to rest. Why aren't you out meeting new people? You're saying no one in the City of Cincinnati is kind, humble, confident, down to earth, attractive, tolerant or wise! You are making me laugh. Perhaps what you see in others is a reflection of yourself?

[Sorcerer68]

From an outside perspective:
I invest nationwide. I love to buy nasty old property with beautiful architecture and restore it. The nationwide trend is that people are moving out of the 'burbs and back into the urban cores. Everyone has heard of the loft boom. It's the reverse of the "white flight" of the 50's-70's. Go to Main St. in OTR and have a look if you haven't lately. Developers are buying up abandoned buildings in the area and doing beautiful things to them. It's happening. I'm not a big developer. I'm just an investor who does one project at a time. I'll be purchasing some properties in the area to restore and keep. I'll keep the rent reasonable and the property attractive. Your city has the best opportunity for cash flowing rental properties I've seen in a long time. In Hawaii and California where I live, this is a pipe dream. I've already got a friend there to manage my properties who is a native. I'll never live there longer than it takes to fix up properties but I believe in your city and would like to help make it a little prettier, if only in a small way.

[spreadingthelight]

Originally Posted by Sorcerer68

From an outside perspective:
I love to buy nasty old property with beautiful architecture and restore it......
In Hawaii and California where I live, this is a pipe dream...........

Well, we both come from the same areas Polynesia (Hawaii, Oahu for me and Tahiti) and SoCal, CA (or CA if you are from North). I second you on what you are saying about Cincy. I believe in Cincy's market, I am an investor like you, eager to buy old architectural props and rehab them. There is so much opportunity in this city.

I believe this city is going to grow when there is a change in the local Gov. (I mean it, the local GOV is the main pb).

The city is moving, people have to move with it. If they don't, they go. New ones will make this city a wonderful place to be. I am one of them with all my friends moving in soon.

Cincy has been owned by generation of closed minded residents who didn't want to progress with the city' changes. That is sad but, one has to let go and I am for the city to bloom as many cities in this country did. I believe in Cincy and it will become of the best in its kind.

I am sure Paintballer and Subway are going to second that

Thanks to both of you to be so dedicated to your city and loyal to your believes. Good to read peope like you.

Viva Cincy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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[gmnordy]

There is nothing wrong with Cincinnati, actually the folks are all friendly and it is a very interesting place to live. I would recommend it to anyone!

[cday]

I am currently doing research on the region and neighborhood of Westwood and could use your input on places I need to go to get my research

[Pathwalker]

I'm coming into this discussion really late, but after reading some things, I need to respond real quickly....

First, Queen City Square phase 2 is only PROPOSED. With downtown Cincinnati's high vacancy rate, it's unlikely to be built anytime soon.

Second, to say that Cincinnati went from 308,000 to 331,000 in population is a bit dishonest and misleading, giving the impression that Cincinnati added 23,000 people since the 2000 census. That simply isn't true. All that happened was that the mayor challenged the census and it was found that mistakes were made. The city simply didn't lose 23,000 people as the census indicated - but it also didn't add that many. It was only a very small increase in total residents, so I hardly consider it a booming growth in the city.

[Epsilon]

As a 22 year Negro native of Cincinnati, born and raised, I seem to have a lot of trouble agreeing that Cincinnati is such a "great city". While poster "paintballer1708 seems to be the most enthusiastic of Cincinnati natives, I think his experience is from a different side of the looking glass.

I will agree about the growth spurt of the urban sprawl... But who benefits? How affordable are these condos to the Lower Class and Lower Middle Class? Cincinnati is a Neo-Conservative city, and it caters to the wealthy more than the "well off". Honestly. Cincinnati's latest revitalization to the downtown square is BEAUTIFUL, but I share a parallel disdain with it because the school system is down the rabbit hole. I grew up in a post-911 era of toppling communities and financial crises, and of course the April riots didn't make it any better.

The problem is that we're a city stuck in revolving progression and regression. Yes, the city is booming if you look at it from an Industrial perspective, which is starting to have immense effects on the wildlife. More animals are wandering into the inner cities only to be killed by reckless drivers. We're not the worst, but the carelessness of Cincy natives is starting to augment. Many natives here are rude because the OTHER natives here are rude. After years of racial spatiality, we still can't get over because of either fear, or an economy split.

The crime problem in Cincinnati is only because there are little youth programs in this city. The main elements that would revitalize this city are youth initiative programs, and money to build and renovate every school in the city. The politicians here are so focused on the downtown metro, catering to the Upper-Middle Class and Upper Class (What little of them decide to invest here at all...), while neglecting the youth of today, who need more direction, motivation, drive, and vigor. Cincinnati's economy is causing a lot of college sophomores to go into mental burnout. I've seen a good number of students drop classes or take a quarter break because of a lack of money.

There are very little jobs here that are not industrial, or fast food, or retail, and the minimum wage hike is an insult. And there are very little jobs because a lot of stores are going out of business. Blockbuster, for example, has closed a myriad of their locations in the Cincinnati area, and I can only count three that are left. I could be wrong. Many people can't afford to start their own home business here because of the toppling economy, which is only getting better to those who benefit from the tax hikes. From what I understand, the power of the dollar is dependent on the buying power of the people, and there are not a lot of things here that the entire populace of Cincinnati can afford to invest in, not just money wise, but stability is also key. How can we invest in a city with limited business?

The crime rate is always going to scare people off, and it IS a major issue no matter how you slice it. Further turning the city into a police state is only going to cause more tension; not just racial tension, but CIVIL RIGHTS tension. Cincinnatians need to learn to co-exist as a community, and this goes for the peoples of the ghettos too. Let's not neglect that those ghettos major a big part of the city's poverty rates, to which, the poverty is a BIG issue too. We need city officials that care about the school systems and the revitalization of the youth. They are without hope because they are generally neglected.

As much as I love Cincinnati, I hate it all the same, and I wish to usher in a new age of revitalization for this city, but it requires a look at all of the issues from all sides, not just the rich or the wealthy. And for what it's worth even though it's not a city issue, there's not a person that I haven't heard NOT complaining about the gas prices. Combined with Cincinnati's downward spiral in the economy, it makes the issue a bit worse. I love the University of Cincinnati, but they're getting more expensive year by year, making it harder for students who want the experience of a beautiful college campus. Many would rather go to Cincinnati State just because it's cheaper, and you'll find that few are leaving the city to invest in their trades.

The only way that Cincinnati will truly improve is if the people have a voice. The only way that this can happen is if they put their differences aside and work as a consensus. I don't know how, but I can only hope... But let us not lie and make Cincinnati seem like a hotbed of business and finances.

[Sunnydee]

Hello, I think the suburbs of Cincinnati (including northern Kentucky) are a great place to live, work, get educated, spend leisure time, and raise a family.

We have beautiful parks. In fact, Hamilton County has one of the best park systems in the country. (I have two parks and a nature preserve within walking distance of my house.) We have plays at Playhouse in the Park and the Aronoff Center, there is a symphony orchestra downtown and in Blue Ash, concerts in various sized venues, Kings Island amusement park, the Loveland bike trail, the Beach waterpark, an incredible public library system, the Ohio River for boating, incredible free fireworks displays throughout the year, the Taste of Cincinnati and Blue Ash are wonderful, and we have fabulous restaurants.

Our water quality is outstanding. It's safe for me ( a female) to walk around, even at night, alone if I so desire. Our suburban police are excellent and arrive within a matter of minutes of calling 911. People are usually polite and will help you when you need it. The cost of living here isn't bad. We're a bit behind on fads etc. but that can be a good thing. We also tend to be a tad conservative.

The only thing I don't like about Cincinnati is the weather, but the pluses outweigh this, so I'll be here until I retire. If you give us a chance, I'm sure you'll find something to love about this place I call home.

[lydunn]

I believe that Cinti is a great place for people with families if your single RUN

[QueenCty]

Cincinnati actually has a very diversified economy. The manufacturing jobs are actually decreasing but are being more than made up by the service industry. While not an extremely high growth region we are doing well compared to the rest of Ohio, and the metro has about 20,000 more jobs than 2006. Many jobs are in the consumer industry (P&G, Kroger, Federated etc, related industries like ad agencies and package design, and the financial industry (Fidelity, Citi, Fifth Third etc).

The number one gaining metro last year was Dallas with 92,000 and Houston was number two with 84,000. The hardest hit were Detroit -32,600 and Youngstown at -4,800.

Here is the link for all metros: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/arch...o_05302007.pdf

Recent announcements include Fidelity adding 1500 jobs, Citi adding 1000, Humana adding 400 (and building a new building near downtown), and newer companies like TQL going from 200 to almost 700 in the past two years. Cincinnati continues to show steady growth, especially for a northern city. While not booming, it is certainly not a shrinking economy. And although there is negative sentiment, there are still many nice in-town neighborhoods. The worst neighborhood, OTR, is actually going through a major transformation, which is finally being done in a way to sustain lasting improvement.