06-28-2007, 12:05 PM
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My girlfriend and I presently live in Dayton. Oakwood and Kettering respectively. We each live alone and rent apartments ($400-500 plus utilities). We are very happy with where we live right now, however sadly she must soon move for work. She will be working in Cincinnati, so we've selected the Mason and West Chester areas as a good in-between for us. However we are having trouble finding living accommodations similar to what we presently have.
The areas we live in are very much what I would call a "bedroom community". Trees blanket the neighborhoods which are populated with very nice, small, older houses (in great condition). People are constantly walking dogs, kids are riding bikes, and constantly walking to the dairy queen nearby. The area is very safe, the streets aren't overly busy, with a huge community center within walking distance, great stores like Dorothy Lane market and Trader Joes, libraries, parks, tennis courts, schools, etc. We also like the type of housing we have right now, which is to say small, landlord owned apartments/town houses that are in good shape with low rent (and there are TONS where we now are, literally dozens within a couple miles radius). And it's a great area for my (very active) dog.
So let me sum up by saying we absolutely love where we presently live, and my girlfriend would not be moving unless she had to (which she does). Since we want her to be both close to Dayton and Cincinnati, we picked the Mason area, and just drove around for a while, looking for something similar to what we now have. But after several hours of (albeit random) driving around, we didn't really find anything like the area we now live in. We thought maybe if we got away from the highways a bit, but still, no luck.
I don't expect to find EXACTLY the area we now live in, nor maybe even the great living accommodations at the same prices, but can someone point us towards a similar, small, homely (perhaps quaint) community where we can find some small apartment units? Something away from busy streets where my dog can be safe if she ever gets loose, where we can walk and enjoy a friendly neighbor hood with an active community? It doesn't have to be exactly in Mason or West Chester, but something in the vicinity so that it's not a long commute for her to go to work each day (and I might move down to the area eventually as well), but it's not difficult to see each other frequently as well?
Or perhaps if not specific recommendations of communities to look, perhaps someone can explain what it is about the Dayton area that has spawned these two great places to live? Is it the river, the city, the university, the highways, etc.? Perhaps something we can look for in the areas we're apartment hunting that will yield the same kind of town?
Thanks in advance!
06-28-2007, 02:15 PM
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My girlfriend and I presently live in Dayton. Oakwood and Kettering respectively. We each live alone and rent apartments ($400-500 plus utilities). We are very happy with where we live right now, however sadly she must soon move for work. She will be working in Cincinnati, so we've selected the Mason and West Chester areas as a good in-between for us. However we are having trouble finding living accommodations similar to what we presently have.
The areas we live in are very much what I would call a "bedroom community". Trees blanket the neighborhoods which are populated with very nice, small, older houses (in great condition). People are constantly walking dogs, kids are riding bikes, and constantly walking to the dairy queen nearby. The area is very safe, the streets aren't overly busy, with a huge community center within walking distance, great stores like Dorothy Lane market and Trader Joes, libraries, parks, tennis courts, schools, etc. We also like the type of housing we have right now, which is to say small, landlord owned apartments/town houses that are in good shape with low rent (and there are TONS where we now are, literally dozens within a couple miles radius). And it's a great area for my (very active) dog.
So let me sum up by saying we absolutely love where we presently live, and my girlfriend would not be moving unless she had to (which she does). Since we want her to be both close to Dayton and Cincinnati, we picked the Mason area, and just drove around for a while, looking for something similar to what we now have. But after several hours of (albeit random) driving around, we didn't really find anything like the area we now live in. We thought maybe if we got away from the highways a bit, but still, no luck.
I don't expect to find EXACTLY the area we now live in, nor maybe even the great living accommodations at the same prices, but can someone point us towards a similar, small, homely (perhaps quaint) community where we can find some small apartment units? Something away from busy streets where my dog can be safe if she ever gets loose, where we can walk and enjoy a friendly neighbor hood with an active community? It doesn't have to be exactly in Mason or West Chester, but something in the vicinity so that it's not a long commute for her to go to work each day (and I might move down to the area eventually as well), but it's not difficult to see each other frequently as well?
Or perhaps if not specific recommendations of communities to look, perhaps someone can explain what it is about the Dayton area that has spawned these two great places to live? Is it the river, the city, the university, the highways, etc.? Perhaps something we can look for in the areas we're apartment hunting that will yield the same kind of town?
Thanks in advance!
It's not that Cincinnati doesn't have those kinds of communities, as if Dayton somehow trumps Cincinnati in that department. It's simply that you're talking about 2 relatively NEWER suburbs which were built around the concept of subdivision living, as opposed to cities built around a community square. West Chester and Mason are northern Cincinnati suburbs that exploded in growth during the 90's and on into the present. You're not going to find what you're looking for in either one. (I know, because I live in West Chester). You'll find SOME things that you're looking for here, but not the whole package. For that, you would need to go into Cincinnati further.
The closest option I can think of for you would be Lebanon. MAYBE parts of West Hamilton.
06-28-2007, 02:29 PM
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What about the older parts of Mason? You know, before the city annexed everything that was standing still (and a few things that weren't ...). There are the older homes, tree-lined streets, etc.
I agree with
WCRob , there's not much like Kettering or Oakwood in Warren County, but Lebanon comes close. The residential area immediately surrounding downtown is beautiful, lots of parks and trees, easily walkable. I was never bored when I lived there because there was always an antique shop or two to browse in.
But your girlfriend could look closer in to Cincinnati (where is she working, btw?). It's not too fer of a piece to drive on a regular basis -- speed demons like me can do it in 40 to 45 minutes, traffic and the Ohio Highway Patrol notwithstanding.
Depending on where she works, neighborhoods like Oakley, Deer Park, Pleasant Ridge, or Montgomery come to mind (oops, there goes that East Side bias again ...
).
Good luck!
06-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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Thank you very much for your response, WCRob. So, when looking for communities like the one I presently live in, I should seek something a bit older? Are there other criterion? And how does one go about finding "older" areas? Just asking like I am here?
Thanks again, we'll check out Lebanon and West Hamilton as soon as we can.
06-28-2007, 02:33 PM
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Thank you for your post as well, OhioGirl81.
We were trying to avoid going too far South, but as I think about it, I could see myself making the trip 2-3 times per week at the most. Maybe 3-4 for the two of us total, so maybe adding 20 minutes per interval may not be that bad.
These four neighborhoods you've mentioned are very kettering/oakwoodesque, then, you'd say? We'll check them out.
Thanks again, both of you!
06-28-2007, 03:03 PM
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There is a place called Knollwood Crossing close to bypass 4 but I believe they are based on your income....good luck
06-28-2007, 03:15 PM
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06-28-2007, 09:16 PM
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I'm trying to bear in mind what Patron1308 said with regards to wanting a smaller apartment building owned privately by someone - not managed by a company. There are TONS of apartment complexes in Mason and West Chester - but very little in the way of smaller buildings on tree-lined streets with a close-knit, family feel to them in which your dog can run free and you're still close to parks, etc..... That kind of arrangement simply does not exist in West Chester or Mason. Now granted, there are parks here. And there are great stores, and even a bit of a family-feel to many neighborhoods. But the closest thing I can think of in the Cincinnati area that would be like Kettering or Oakwood, would be places like Hyde Park or Oakley - as Ohiogirl mentioned. Mason has an older area, but if you're going to live in that part of Mason, you'd might as well go on up the road to Lebanon, because it is so much nicer. Plus, you would still have easy access to Cincinnati via I-71, and Dayton wouldn't be that far of a drive.
West Hamilton, around the Sanders area, has a LOT of small privately owned apartment buildings, and would be more conducive to what you're looking for. But West Hamilton can also be a bit of a drive to Cincinnati, particularly considering the roads available to get you there.....very congested, or out of the way.
Kenwood might have what you're looking for, and so might Madeira. But other than that, your best options would truly be Hyde Park and Oakley. And those are right in the heart of eastern Cincinnati. A drive from there to Dayton would probably be about 65-75 minutes.
Honestly, Patron - not to put you on a downer or burst your bubble - but if you could concede on one or two items, it would be MUCH easier to recommend a solution that would really fit you well. For example, if you could deal with an apartment complex, or be willing to make a longer drive, you could easily find what you're looking for. The ideal place you would want DOES exist in several different places of Cincinnati - but unfortunately, they are farther south than West Chester and Mason. Personally, I think you would fit in PERFECTLY in some place like Glendale or Wyoming. Both are BEAUTIFUL areas, with tree-lined streets and lots of families and parks and places to walk with your dog. They would both be close enough to I-75 that you could make a straight shot up the interstate to Dayton. For what it's worth, I used to live in Fairfield, and I would drive everyday to Xenia - and it only took me a little over an hour. And Kettering and Oakwood are much closer than Xenia, so the commute may not be quite as bad as you think, especially when you do it on a regular basis.
Good luck....and sorry for sounding so redundant. lol!
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Madeira may also be a good fit too!! Tree lined upper middle class. There are a few apartment complexes there too. Good school district, very friendly. there is a bunch of boutiques and shops. Swimming pool, very home townish.
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)