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Old 09-19-2010, 04:35 PM
 
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Yea, well I saw the video and I don't know what it showed about Pendleton. And, your link didn't work.
You're saying when you clink on the link, no video plays?

Is anyone else having trouble?

What do you not understand about Pendleton and the effects the casino will have on it? It's right across the street? Hell, there are businesses in OTR preparing for the casino ... there are homeoweners holding on to their properties until the casino is completed. Pendleton? It's right across the street.

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Old 09-19-2010, 04:40 PM
 
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The video was generic bs. Didn't show anything about the interface with Pendleton. You know I own 20,000 square feet at the edge of Pendleton (Sycamore St.) and certainly hope for a boost to Pendleton and the whole area. I just don't see it yet. It would be very easy to isolate Pendleton from the entire casino area by design of the Reading Road interface. We will see what happens.
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Old 09-19-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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Again ... this is across the street. We have developers/investors embracing for the changes in Mt. Auburn and OTR. This is a fact from speaking with a few myself.

It's not uncommon that some of the best and and most successful ideas from some of the most wealthiest businessmen in this nation came from people that were able to see an idea when no one else could or claimed it wouldn't work.

Do you remember the tsunami of negativity from the general public when 3CDC announced they were going to invest $42 mill on renovating Fountain Square? Folks that could see the bigger picture aren't surprised and the naive ones - well, they kind of disappeared.

That $42 mill spent reaped $125 mill from private investment and over 2 million visitors on an annual basis.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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Well, Fountain Square was a sorry episode. The whole thing was a scheme to protect 5/3 from having to demolish that rat hole tower. A real plan for Fountain Square would have brought that asbestos filled rat trap down and restricted traffic on the adjoining streets to create a downtown pedestrian plaza. But the fix was in.

And, the casino might easily be oriented so that Reading Road might as well be the Red Sea. Or, as you predict, a gateway to Pendleton. Since the powers that be are more likely to favor downtown than Pendleton, I am skeptical. Then again, P&G probably does not really want to be at the doorstep of a casino. So, we will see. I'll be retiring early if Pendleton takes off.
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:43 AM
 
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This neighborhood intrigues me more than anywhere in the country.
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Old 04-10-2011, 03:57 AM
 
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All who are acting like these Realtor s and Investors are Carpetbagging need to realize that they are taking a huge risk in that area. Facts are that if one *non part of the game* gets killed down there game over. Riots, happen again Game Over, and the most likely scenario imho when the churches are having to start paying upkeep fees on there properties in OTR, and get there congregations to protest it could go violent quick. Don't act like these businesses, bankers and investors are the enemy the people that want to live in swaller and both abuse, and sell drugs are the problem! Ask me where they should go, bluntly as far away from here as possible would be wishfull. Honestly though here is my analogy, do you think that if the City or someone tried to hire any of the *vermin* residents of OTR that they would pick up a hammer, or broom to clean up there environment even at prevailing wages? The answer is no! Almost guaranteed! Point is that they are going to stand on sidewalks and try and intimidate, etc. Sorry, it's not too much to ask that they leave some of the most historic sites in the city. OTR is a special place, and honestly think we need to build a bigger jail somewhere rural and move allot of them there!
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Old 04-10-2011, 04:06 AM
 
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This neighborhood intrigues me more than anywhere in the country.
David it's an amazing part of the city, and the thing is that there are allot of very passionate people trying to save it, and they aren't banks and investors but normal people. The problem is that it is almost a battle ground with Churchs fighting 3cdc and the city and social bloggers etc trying to fight stigmas, which is hard when criminals are shooting people in the head. Shooting on 13th and Vine is scary as that is pretty much the heart of OTR Development. Problem, is that it's going to be hard not to be on the losing end, but I pray that maybe it'll really be a renaissance. Think Mireca is just aggravated much like myself seeing playground never used but always seeing 3 - 4 loitering drug zombies just hanging out not doing anything. It's hard not to have a severe hatred towards them!
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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I grew up on 13th and Republic, in what used to be The Santa Maria Bldg, once owned by the Sisters Of Charity. My family packed and moved in 1969-1970. Several years later I went back and could not believe what had happened to the bldg. It was at one time the most beautiful marbel stairways you could imagine. It had been destroyed and run down so bad. No one that never seen it originally could ever imagine what it used to be.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:55 PM
 
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I grew up on 13th and Republic, in what used to be The Santa Maria Bldg, once owned by the Sisters Of Charity. My family packed and moved in 1969-1970. Several years later I went back and could not believe what had happened to the bldg. It was at one time the most beautiful marbel stairways you could imagine. It had been destroyed and run down so bad. No one that never seen it originally could ever imagine what it used to be.

Hey Rick, which corner of 13th and Republic is/was your building on?
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