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Old 12-27-2010, 08:59 AM
 
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I am currently in Dayton, Ohio. I have recently graduated with a M.Ed in Special Education (intervention specilist).

I would like to look in the Cincinnati area for teaching jobs next year. I have registered with Cincinnati Public Schools website.

In Dayton, there are a couple different teaching job fairs. I have done some web research on any in Cincinnati and I found nothing. I saw one where you had to be associated with a specific Cinci school (Xavier etc..) to attend.

Are there any other teaching job fairs?

Also any other general thoughts on teaching in the Cincinnati area?
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Yea, frankly I think the teaching bubble around Cincinnati has burst. That is not only CPS but the surrounding suburban districts.

First, we had outlying districts like Little Miami with an proliferation of subdivisions causing explosive expansion. The taxpayers there began to say NO and have continued to do so. Now we have some of the annointed suburban districts like Lakota and Mason also saying NO!

We are told this is all due to their reduced state funding. But we are not told why the state funding is going down. I thought the Lottery would solve all our school funding problems. Now I am sure it will be the Casinos. The fact is they all walk the line and whenever we get a blip in the economy like now, everything crumbles.

We are also told we will be facing a shortage of teachers. But we are not told what specific fields of teaching. In my opinion, we have far too many special education classes, requirements, etc. placing a huge financial burden on our school districts. Am I against special needs students - H**l NO! I have a grandson who definitely falls into the category. But I am in favor of special needs Schools, which have only one purpose - excelling in these requirements and not subjecting each individual district to provide the equivalent.

A few well done special needs schools in the greater Cincinnati area could do more to provide for the problems of these children than everything being done currently. But that would require an area-wide approach which we do not have.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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I am currently in Dayton, Ohio. I have recently graduated with a M.Ed in Special Education (intervention specilist).

I would like to look in the Cincinnati area for teaching jobs next year. I have registered with Cincinnati Public Schools website.

In Dayton, there are a couple different teaching job fairs. I have done some web research on any in Cincinnati and I found nothing. I saw one where you had to be associated with a specific Cinci school (Xavier etc..) to attend.

Are there any other teaching job fairs?

Also any other general thoughts on teaching in the Cincinnati area?
I'll just throw in my 2 cents for ya...my girlfriend is a 2nd year teacher within CPS. She teaches 7th and 8th grade math. I was so surprised when she graduated and immediately got a job with CPS, but it has a lot to do with the turnover in that particular subject and grade level. She was at Pleasant Hill Academy last year and Midway this year. The students are god awful, because they're parents couldn't give a shlt less. It's basically day care with the worst kinds of kids, many of whom are in and out of jail or juvenile centers or whatever BS they call em for youngsters. Point is, I hope you have thick skin, because if hired, you will likely end up in a slot that is open for a damned good reason.

Sorry, not trying to be negative, just relaying the truths which have become obvious over her 2 years. It's extremely difficult to be happy teaching when the kids you teach don't give a rat's a$$. And naturally, they don't give a rat's a$$ because their parents don't.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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I'll just throw in my 2 cents for ya...my girlfriend is a 2nd year teacher within CPS. She teaches 7th and 8th grade math. I was so surprised when she graduated and immediately got a job with CPS, but it has a lot to do with the turnover in that particular subject and grade level. She was at Pleasant Hill Academy last year and Midway this year. The students are god awful, because they're parents couldn't give a shlt less. It's basically day care with the worst kinds of kids, many of whom are in and out of jail or juvenile centers or whatever BS they call em for youngsters. Point is, I hope you have thick skin, because if hired, you will likely end up in a slot that is open for a damned good reason.

Sorry, not trying to be negative, just relaying the truths which have become obvious over her 2 years. It's extremely difficult to be happy teaching when the kids you teach don't give a rat's a$$. And naturally, they don't give a rat's a$$ because their parents don't.

In reply to the first reply. I think you may have sort of an argument, but in all honesty you are probably an old school teacher. That idea will NEVER happen. Special Ed. is a fine line and certainly can lend itself to having too many classes or parents that push for IEP. Let's be honest, unless your kid is a genious, wouldn't every parent just about want their kid on an IEP?

Tubby- I hear you loud and clear on those issues. I will be honest though, if I did not think I could ever handle those kind of kids, I am not sure I would ever go into education. If you want the best kids in the world that require little to no work, then being a teacher will never be fore you. Even outside of special education. They are kids and the F-up all the time. This goes back to cavemen ha!

That being said, I think there are places that are worse off than the generlized public school that has kids that don't want to be there. Mostly these are academy type of schools that take in the kids that the public school can not handle anymore. I would work there if I had to, but certainly will not be my first choice.

Mainly though I hope to get an answer from someon about teacher job fairs in Cinci??? That is what I am looking for the most.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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In reply to the first reply. I think you may have sort of an argument, but in all honesty you are probably an old school teacher. That idea will NEVER happen. Special Ed. is a fine line and certainly can lend itself to having too many classes or parents that push for IEP. Let's be honest, unless your kid is a genious, wouldn't every parent just about want their kid on an IEP?

Tubby- I hear you loud and clear on those issues. I will be honest though, if I did not think I could ever handle those kind of kids, I am not sure I would ever go into education. If you want the best kids in the world that require little to no work, then being a teacher will never be fore you. Even outside of special education. They are kids and the F-up all the time. This goes back to cavemen ha!

That being said, I think there are places that are worse off than the generlized public school that has kids that don't want to be there. Mostly these are academy type of schools that take in the kids that the public school can not handle anymore. I would work there if I had to, but certainly will not be my first choice.

Mainly though I hope to get an answer from someon about teacher job fairs in Cinci??? That is what I am looking for the most.
Well thats great to hear. I applaud and admire your attitude, I really do. My mom has been teaching in CPS for years and now I'm my LT GF is a teacher, so I have mad respect for it as a career.

Sorry, I can't really give you a lot of help with job fairs, but here is my suggestion. I would contact the University of Cincinnati and Xavier and see how their job fairs work. I could swear I have heard of ourside people AKA non-students being allowed to come in a meet CPS and all the districts attending. Could be worth a shot...
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: In a happy place
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Yea, frankly I think the teaching bubble around Cincinnati has burst. That is not only CPS but the surrounding suburban districts.

First, we had outlying districts like Little Miami with an proliferation of subdivisions causing explosive expansion. The taxpayers there began to say NO and have continued to do so. Now we have some of the annointed suburban districts like Lakota and Mason also saying NO!

We are told this is all due to their reduced state funding. But we are not told why the state funding is going down. I thought the Lottery would solve all our school funding problems. Now I am sure it will be the Casinos. The fact is they all walk the line and whenever we get a blip in the economy like now, everything crumbles.

We are also told we will be facing a shortage of teachers. But we are not told what specific fields of teaching. In my opinion, we have far too many special education classes, requirements, etc. placing a huge financial burden on our school districts. Am I against special needs students - H**l NO! I have a grandson who definitely falls into the category. But I am in favor of special needs Schools, which have only one purpose - excelling in these requirements and not subjecting each individual district to provide the equivalent.

A few well done special needs schools in the greater Cincinnati area could do more to provide for the problems of these children than everything being done currently. But that would require an area-wide approach which we do not have.
In response to your questions about reduced funding,

There is an explanation of lottery funding for education here CATALYST OHIO :: Follow Up. I generally don't suggest a site unless I feel I know what the "agenda" of the organization. I don't know anything about Catalyst other than they claim to be independent, however this article has the clearest explanation of Lottery Funding for education in Ohio that I have seen. According to the Ohio Lottery Commission, $702 Million in profits was transferred to the Education Fund in 2009 for the entire state.

Property tax funding for schools in Ohio is extremely complex. If you read this article through, it pretty much covers all the points that most people aren't fully aware of. Ohio Local Tax Law Basics You can see here that if the funding through property taxes does not decrease, it does at least remain stagnant. The schools have many expenses that increase regardless of the amount of funding they receive. Just today I passed a gas station that was showing a price of $2.979 when we went one way. 20 minutes later we passed the same station again and the price was $3.199. Schools are faced with the same increases for their bus fuel.

In regards to your concern about specific schools for special needs students, at one time that was the case. The change was made to allow the student with "special needs" the opportunity to receive their education in the "Least restrictive environment". This means that some students receive their education (or parts of it) in a regular classroom with modifications or assistance, some in self-contained special classrooms, and some in totally specialized facilities. This gives not only the student with special needs a chance to become familiar and comfortable in a regular environment, as well as providing the student without those disadvantages the opportunity to understand the hardships that others endure.
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring,Maryland
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I am currently in Dayton, Ohio. I have recently graduated with a M.Ed in Special Education (intervention specilist).

I would like to look in the Cincinnati area for teaching jobs next year. I have registered with Cincinnati Public Schools website.

In Dayton, there are a couple different teaching job fairs. I have done some web research on any in Cincinnati and I found nothing. I saw one where you had to be associated with a specific Cinci school (Xavier etc..) to attend.

Are there any other teaching job fairs?

Also any other general thoughts on teaching in the Cincinnati area?
Job Fairs for teachers are few and far between. I was looking to go into education some years back and there was a former school administrator that used to run a website and agency to help education graduates find jobs. I cannot remember his name sadly. He had posted a few yrs back that the market here is saturated and no upcoming fairs were in the works. Locally there are a LOT of colleges with education majors and going back at least 5-6years there have been grads working as subs and they are going to get first dibs.

I worked with a young lady that became a teacher and it took her 3 years to find a job in Loveland.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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I am currently in Dayton, Ohio. I have recently graduated with a M.Ed in Special Education (intervention specilist).

I would like to look in the Cincinnati area for teaching jobs next year. I have registered with Cincinnati Public Schools website.

In Dayton, there are a couple different teaching job fairs. I have done some web research on any in Cincinnati and I found nothing. I saw one where you had to be associated with a specific Cinci school (Xavier etc..) to attend.

Are there any other teaching job fairs?

Also any other general thoughts on teaching in the Cincinnati area?

the dayton area use to hold a big job fair in april every year. not sure if they still do. colleges to my knowledge all do. may have to check with each one individually. special edu you should find work fast. In my experience that is an area where even Ohio has a tough time filling the demand. in some states just having a BA in psych or soc is enough to get a special edu license (North Carolina).
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Old 01-03-2011, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I don't know anything about Catalyst other than they claim to be independent, however this article has the clearest explanation of Lottery Funding for education in Ohio that I have seen.
And the article is absolutely correct. The lottery proceeds were never meant to add to state funding already received by the schools:

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Operating cost and prizes consume 70 percent of the lottery's annual profit, explains Marelle Cohen, Ohio Lottery spokeswoman, and the remainder goes to the state's 600-plus school districts. However, lottery profits do not supplement the funds that the state already provides for schools. Rather, they supplant state funding.

[snip]

As a result, the state can use money that would have been spent on education to fund other state programs.
How many years later, and voters are still confused about this when they go to the polls to decide on school levies ...
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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If you got out of U.D. you shouldn't have a lot of trouble finding a job in the Dayton area, unless things have changed a lot over the years. If you got out of Wright State, I don't know.

I should think now that residency is no longer popular, you could make your home in the Cincinnati area regardless.
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