Frequent Transit Guide for Cincinnati (Kenwood, Madison: how much, live, buses) - Ohio (OH) - City-Data Forum

deg1114 · 03-31-2011, 01:01 PM

This is a great idea. It really simplifies the bus routes:

A frequent transit guide for Cincinnati by Nathan Wessel — Kickstarter

"This map reduces the system's current complication to a legible structure that is complex but interconnected, with an easily visible structure of primary, secondary, and tertiary routes. The map is laid out so that people who are new to riding the bus can quickly and easily see which line they need to take, how to take it, and most importantly how long they can expect to wait."

I'll be the first to admit that I have always had a problem with the way the Metro system is laid out. In fact so much that I have avoided Metro for many years but after seeing this it really cleared things up and I took Metro downtown for the Opening Day Parade!

The lay out of the map reminds me of the maps you will see in major cities and it's similar to the DC metro map. Great idea!

skippercollector · 03-31-2011, 01:14 PM

Up until the early 1970s, Metro (I can't remember what it was called then) had complete route maps for its riders. I don't know why it discontinued printing them.

Nomomo11 · 03-31-2011, 01:14 PM

I think the main problem with metro is that it can take two to three hours to get from one side of the city to the other. This isn't Chicago for f**k sake. They really need to scrap the street car and put that money into bettering countywide transit. Just a note, this is coming from someone who lives near where the streetcar would run.

deg1114 · 03-31-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomomo11

I think the main problem with metro is that it can take two to three hours to get from one side of the city to the other. This isn't Chicago for f**k sake. They really need to scrap the street car and put that money into bettering countywide transit. Just a note, this is coming from someone who lives near where the streetcar would run.

They tried to start a countywide transportation system in 2002 and it was rejected by voters. Now, the city is starting on a smaller scale with the streetcar and build up from there but that doesn't seem to be good enough either. Spend all of the money on the freeways and complain about that as well. It seems like nothing is ever good enough is it? Anymore it seems like no one in Cincinnati is happy unless they have something to complain about.

Nomomo11 · 03-31-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deg1114

They tried to start a countywide transportation system in 2002 and it was rejected by voters. Now, the city is starting on a smaller scale with the streetcar and build up from there but that doesn't seem to be good enough either. Spend all of the money on the freeways and complain about that as well. It seems like nothing is ever good enough is it? Anymore it seems like no one in Cincinnati is happy unless they have something to complain about.

I am saying upgrading metro. Worry about rail when the suburbanites finally have to start shelling out 6 and 7 dollars per gallon. Upgrade the bus transit so that those of us who actually use it can get from Clifton to say Kenwood in a reasonable amount of time. Rather than the 2 hours it currently takes.

deg1114 · 03-31-2011, 03:09 PM

Then the time to worry about rail systems is right now. Depending on how much area is covered with a mass transit system it could take 1, 2, or even 3 decades to complete. Just think, in March of 2000, gas was averaging about $1.52 a gallon. What is it now?

As far as expanding express service for buses, Kasich cut funding for that as well as for the 3C corridor and the streetcar.

kjbrill · 03-31-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deg1114

The lay out of the map reminds me of the maps you will see in major cities and it's similar to the DC metro map. Great idea!

It may be a great idea. But why are such ideas seemingly always outside of the existing structure? I would think Metro would welcome such an idea. But is it a fact they will not, being locked into their current business structure?

In my opinion (you can commensurate with the public flogging now), we have far too many public advocates offering ideas on how to solve all of our problems. The only reason they are a public advocate is so they don't have to get a real job.

deg1114 · 03-31-2011, 07:25 PM

I for one am glad there are people like this who care enough about a cause to take the time to do the research and improve. I just hope once the original print of the maps are over that Metro has the sense to carry it on. As far as jobs or no jobs, students definitely seem to be the ones taking up things like this but I also know people who have full time jobs and do things like this. I for one don't have the energy after work to do things like this but if one day I win the lottery, supporting local causes would be something I would do.

jlawrence01 · 03-31-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomomo11

I think the main problem with metro is that it can take two to three hours to get from one side of the city to the other. This isn't Chicago for f**k sake. They really need to scrap the street car and put that money into bettering countywide transit. Just a note, this is coming from someone who lives near where the streetcar would run.

They have made so many of the routes so long that you don't want to take them.

The 24 route goes through Clifton to get to Anderson.

In the old days, it went Gilbert to McMillan to Madison to Mt Lookout, a much more direct route.