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Old 11-16-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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How true! I miss it also.
As for Chiquita moving to Charlotte -- forget about CVG who needs it? We will be getting a brand new shiny $100M+ choochoo
Which the people have now voted in favor of - twice. But perhaps you're blaming the Cincinnati streetcar for the failures at CVG? You might want to direct your vitriol toward Delta and the Kenton County airport board - neither one of which the City of Cincinnati has any control over. And CVG has absolutely zero to do with transportation within the urban core of Cincinnati, unless, of course, you're proposing to land some 767s on Central Parkway ...

Nice try though, trying to hijack this thread into another tiresome streetcar debate.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Bridgetown, Ohio
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Which the people have now voted in favor of - twice. But perhaps you're blaming the Cincinnati streetcar for the failures at CVG? You might want to direct your vitriol toward Delta and the Kenton County airport board - neither one of which the City of Cincinnati has any control over. And CVG has absolutely zero to do with transportation within the urban core of Cincinnati, unless, of course, you're proposing to land some 767s on Central Parkway ...

Nice try though, trying to hijack this thread into another tiresome streetcar debate.
No not really - I was trying to point out the stupid priorities of the city leadership. How much more productive would it be for them to spend their energy and resources on something that would be so much more effective.
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Old 11-24-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: (Lyndon) Louisville KY USA
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Kentucky is also losing jobs to poorer states (yes there are state even worse than KY!). We've lost bids to land 5 new auto manfactoring plants in the past 15 years after landing the huge Toyota plant in Georgetown. Mississippi and Alabama are becoming the new industrial power of America. Today's companies seem to want the cheapest possible places, whethers it's the Gulf Coast in America or China (world's cheapest place).
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Old 11-24-2011, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Kentucky is also losing jobs to poorer states (yes there are state even worse than KY!). We've lost bids to land 5 new auto manfactoring plants in the past 15 years after landing the huge Toyota plant in Georgetown. Mississippi and Alabama are becoming the new industrial power of America. Today's companies seem to want the cheapest possible places, whethers it's the Gulf Coast in America or China (world's cheapest place).
Alabama is poorer than Kentucky?

Cincinnati hasn't lost Chiquita. I have heard the reason Chiquita is thinking on leaving is because of CVG international... of course, leave it up to Kentucky lol. I believe Omnicare is leaving Kentucky for Ohio in 2012.
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:49 AM
 
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Alabama is poorer than Kentucky?
I did a VERY quick Google search and turned up recent per capita income, for which Alabama was very slightly higher, and some figures a few years old which indicated Alabama had quite a bit larger GDP than Kentucky.

So, probably not.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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I did a VERY quick Google search and turned up recent per capita income, for which Alabama was very slightly higher, and some figures a few years old which indicated Alabama had quite a bit larger GDP than Kentucky.

So, probably not.
I thought so. Alabama just seems to have a bit more wealth throughout the state, and not concentrated in certain areas like Kentucky.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:35 AM
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Location: Mason, OH
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Alabama is poorer than Kentucky?

Cincinnati hasn't lost Chiquita. I have heard the reason Chiquita is thinking on leaving is because of CVG international... of course, leave it up to Kentucky lol. I believe Omnicare is leaving Kentucky for Ohio in 2012.
Doesn't surprise me. An outfit like Omnicare, which preys on the pharmaceutical needs of seniors in nursing homes, etc., will go anywhere they can get a tax break. Stealing a company from across the river in KY is just the kind of low level tactics Kasich will employ. Does absolutely nothing positive for the Cincy metro area as a whole, just creates animosity between Ohio and Kentucky.
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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Doesn't surprise me. An outfit like Omnicare, which preys on the pharmaceutical needs of seniors in nursing homes, etc., will go anywhere they can get a tax break. Stealing a company from across the river in KY is just the kind of low level tactics Kasich will employ. Does absolutely nothing positive for the Cincy metro area as a whole, just creates animosity between Ohio and Kentucky.
While I agree with this in principle, it works both ways. Kentucky has done more than their share of pilfering companies from Cincinnati and Ohio over the years, so anyone who views this as a one-sided, one-time raid really isn't paying attention to local history. And I don't remember quite the level of complaining when it was a longtime Cincinnati company that left the city after decades in operation only to reopen 10 miles south.

Kentucky can do all the crying they want, but they haven't seemed to care one iota when they've offered companies plenty of incentives to move south from Cincinnati, Norwood and elsewhere. Newport, in particular, was very aggressive in its quest for Cincinnati businesses in the 90s and early 00s - they heavily courted Maisonette, Blue Wisp and others from downtown, and were successful in getting Hofbrauhaus to open there instead of downtown Cincinnati after the restaurant/brewery had already expressed interest in opening somewhere near Fountain Square. Newport was also quite aggressive in trying to capitalize on the 2001 riots by luring Main Street bars and restaurants, thereby boosting their entertainment district directly at the expense of Cincinnati's. And I remember a time when Kentucky was quite interested in luring the Reds to a location near Florence Mall. Sorry, but that sort of anti-regionalism behavior leaves me with a bad taste and I have no tears for Omnicare's departure.

Finally, while I wish our region would look outward rather than inward in trying to attract new business, this move is certainly preferable to an alternative where Omnicare left altogether - say for Charlotte, Atlanta or one of those other Southern cities that love to raid the north for wealth.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:06 PM
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Location: Mason, OH
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abr7rmj... While it may be perferable to losing a concern totally to another state, it still speaks highly of provincialism. Ohio and Kentucky should be capable of recognizing what is in their mutual best interests and working toward that, especially along their mututal Ohio River border. Their continued pirating of concerns from each other just indicates they are only concerned with the short term, not the long term of their mutual interests. Of course this stems from the fact they both elect politicians focused on only short term results.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Doesn't surprise me. An outfit like Omnicare, which preys on the pharmaceutical needs of seniors in nursing homes, etc., will go anywhere they can get a tax break. Stealing a company from across the river in KY is just the kind of low level tactics Kasich will employ. Does absolutely nothing positive for the Cincy metro area as a whole, just creates animosity between Ohio and Kentucky.
Cincinnati and NKY work a lot better than other city/state areas. Check out Philly/Camden or St. Louis/East St. Louis. I just got back from St. Louis, the other side of the river is literally a ghost town. I am talking about deterioration that I have not seen before. It is a mix between the worst city ghetto in with a bit of southern poverty. Truly eerie. Cincy/NKY work pretty well together if you ask me, and there are a lot of positives on both sides. But I feel no sympathy for NKY losing something to Cincinnati. Considering everything they have taken from Cincinnati in the last couple of decades. I hate Kasich just as much as the next person, and he is truly a bully if you will. But I look at NKY failures to take care of business, and Cincy can't sit around and wait for NKY to take action... so they are going to take it into their own hands. CVG is a perfect example of this; hence the topic of this thread.
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