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Old 10-12-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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The new Cincinnati law allowing conceal carry holders to bring their guns into bars took effect Friday. Last night, the first drunken conceal carry bar goer was arrested for taking out his gun and threatening to kill someone in the bar!

As with all such issues in our society, an event like this will probably change no one's mind. I'm sure it wouldn't change anyone's mind even if he killed a bunch of people. I wonder if people have lost the capacity to change their minds?


Case tests Ohio's guns-in-bars law | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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The new Cincinnati law allowing conceal carry holders to bring their guns into bars took effect Friday. Last night, the first drunken conceal carry bar goer was arrested for taking out his gun and threatening to kill someone in the bar!

As with all such issues in our society, an event like this will probably change no one's mind. I'm sure it wouldn't change anyone's mind even if he killed a bunch of people. I wonder if people have lost the capacity to change their minds?


Case tests Ohio's guns-in-bars law | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com
Been having quite a bit of trouble wrapping my mind around the contention that concealed carry weapons in bars make them SAFER. Haven't any those people ever had a few too many drinks themselves?
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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It should do a world of good in OTR.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:16 PM
 
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I'm surprised it took that long.

Mixing guns and bars is a bad idea.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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How many people were killed in car accidents today?

How many people were killed in bars by firearms today?
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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Guns are already in bars. The criminals have them. The CC law simply allows honest citizens to also carry them.
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:51 AM
 
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Guns are already in bars. The criminals have them. The CC law simply allows honest citizens to also carry them.


Some people cannot grasp that concept. Can you open carry in a bar in Ohio?
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:00 AM
 
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Some people cannot grasp that concept. Can you open carry in a bar in Ohio?

The whole concept of open carry has not been resolved. I believe that police still arrest people for "inducing panic" when they show up anywhere with a openly displayed gun. Its quite perplexing.

the concealed carry in bars story is here, maybe there is something in this:

Carrying guns in Ohio bars now legal with permit | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com

I went ahead and got my CC permit just to be sure, although, nothing is more effective as a deterrent to crime than a couple of guys in a place with .45 automatics on the hip. I would think open carry would be encouraged at least for people who qualify for CC.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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Guns and liquor definitely do not mix. There are enough *******s in bars to begin with, let alone now permitting them to tote guns.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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I am an Ohio concealed carry permit holder and a genuine firearms enthusiast. While I generally only carry a few times a year when I am in the woods on rural property, I am a believer in individual freedom and responsibility. If someone wants to carry a firearm and they follow all of the rules associated with the responsibility, that is their choice. If they break the rules, then they should face the consequences.

That being said, I think the 'guns in bars' legislation is coming from the wrong angle. Bars are private property, so the private property owner should be the one setting the policy, not the government. All of the improper signage and liability lawsuits are BS. If you choose to patronize an establishment, you follow their rules and you assume the risks associated with those rules.
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