Cincinnati Transit Problems: Is This City Crazy???? (Columbus, Hamilton: best city, mover)

[insightofitall]

Gee, another thread about the streetcars...?

[Matthew Hall]

Gee, another vote about streetcars. . .

[abr7rmj]

Originally Posted by Matthew Hall

Gee, another vote about streetcars. . .

Exactly.

We've already said "yes" to streetcars once, but apparently that wasn't enough for COAST. And if streetcars get the green light again on Tuesday, is there any doubt we'll be right back here in a year or two?

[Sarah Perry]

Originally Posted by insightofitall

Gee, another thread about the streetcars...?

Extra time on your hands, anyone?

[Traveler87]

Oh Cincinnati, please pass the streetcar:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=195045

I truly wish people had the experience to travel like I do. I get to go to so many awesome places and meet great people all over. If Cincinnati can learn transit issues, and know what all this means, I know the streetcar and regional rail would already be a huge success there. Obviously for decades what they have been doing hasn't worked, and the declining population speaks volumes. If people say no to this, there are a lot of people in Cincinnati holding it back then.

[Traveler87]

Originally Posted by abr7rmj

Exactly.

We've already said "yes" to streetcars once, but apparently that wasn't enough for COAST. And if streetcars get the green light again on Tuesday, is there any doubt we'll be right back here in a year or two?

What's the guys name, Smitherman? It is one thing to have a personal bias and look out for your politcal campaign, but to lie to the public when the facts are out there that have proved you wrong but you know the majority will be lazy instead of looking up the facts, tells me this guy is as corrupt as they come.

He will make sure Cincinnati never has rail. I wouldn't be shocked if people say "no" to rail tommorow.

[EclecticEars]

Cincinnati: the definition of schizophrenia. For that reason, I'll be surprised if the streetcar gets built at least in the next ten years.

[abr7rmj]

Originally Posted by Traveler87

What's the guys name, Smitherman? It is one thing to have a personal bias and look out for your politcal campaign, but to lie to the public when the facts are out there that have proved you wrong but you know the majority will be lazy instead of looking up the facts, tells me this guy is as corrupt as they come.

He will make sure Cincinnati never has rail. I wouldn't be shocked if people say "no" to rail tommorow.

Chris Smitherman has a personal loathing for Mayor Mark Mallory, and because of it all of Cincinnati must suffer. Smitherman, the local NAACP chairman, doesn't oppose the streetcar, he just opposes anything the mayor tries to do. All you have to do is look at the national NAACP's stance toward streetcars and light rail - they are fully in support of such projects.

Because Smitherman hates our current mayor, the city must ban all rail for a decade. It's pathetic really.

COAST's presence in this whole thing is just background noise. They're suburban Tea Partiers who oppose anything. They're irrelevant. Smitherman, however, is lethally dangerous.

[Wilson513]

I saw Smitherman on Media Bridges (public access) last week and he made more sense in 20 minutes than any of the pro streetcar promoters have in two years. I am not a fan of Smitherman, but he knows this streetcar is promoted solely by greed and influence peddling.

Keep your fingers crossed Cincinnati. A stake in the heart of this tird is just what is needed on Election Day.

[Traveler87]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

I saw Smitherman on Media Bridges (public access) last week and he made more sense in 20 minutes than any of the pro streetcar promoters have in two years. I am not a fan of Smitherman, but he knows this streetcar is promoted solely by greed and influence peddling.

Keep your fingers crossed Cincinnati. A stake in the heart of this tird is just what is needed on Election Day.

Smitherman is quite the opposite. He is a liar and hides the facts. If it is true that he goes against the mayor, he is even more pathetic than he sounds. I have yet to hear one anti-streetcar advocate make any sense on the issue. In other threads, people have asked what you would do to make the city better. No one has come up with what they would do to make the city better.

The city hasn't done anything new for decades, what does it lead to, a 10% decline in population, loss of tax revenue, etc, etc. People bi*** and complain about police force, fire department, and everything else, but when it comes to making the city a better place and attracting residents, and keeping the police force, fire department; no one has anything to say to make the city a more attractive and livable area. Yet, 3CDC comes in and renovates OTR building by building, new development comes to the riverfront, and downtown. Connecting these by the streetcar would only bring in more investment. Cincinnati is too great of a city to pass amazing oppurtunities like this by.

So, what would you do to invest in the city? What would you do to stop population decline? How would you gentrify neighborhoods. All these anti streetcar people do is talk down on the streetcar, but the lack of knowledge on transit is astounding.