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Old 11-09-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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Glad you feel so confident, I look at the margin of victory and am not as confident. But I agree, the streetcar proponents won. While I dispute a streetcar is rail transit, I won't argue beyond there. So what is the next step? When will construction start? If there are existing plans why not immediately? Well we first have to install the new council. Why? If it was already agreed upon and plans drawn up, why not next week? And will they go with the last public proposal or scale it back even further? Once you put these politicians feet to the fire, anything is likely to happen.
I believe it will be relatively soon, kjbrill. The plan is in place. There are some utility relocation details to be worked out, but that should be it. From the reports I've seen, construction should start after the new year.

Also, I wonder if the casino will try to jump in at this stage, possibly paying for its own spur to run west to Broadway Commons?

I will be very disappointed if we go into spring and there isn't work being done.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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The casino will be stupid if they don't chime in with their own spur. To not sponsor a ready made ability to get from the core of the City and its hotels to the Casino would be pure idiocy in my opinion. But I have seen stranger things happen. The Casino will likely want the City to opt up for the spur for free. If the City does they are bigger idiots than even I take them for.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:45 PM
 
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I remember the an article in which the casino was offering to pay for a spur down central parkway and too the casino. I feel like this was after the first ballot issue passed. Can't say I've heard anything lately but I'd think it would be something well hear about soon one way or the other.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA
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Also, I wonder if the casino will try to jump in at this stage, possibly paying for its own spur to run west to Broadway Commons?
If they pay for a rail line spur west from Main St to Broadway they'll pay for anything. ('sall right, we knew what'cha meant.)

I hope this latest transport referendum goes against precedent. Cincy's notorious for having citizens take an "anti" stance toward hot issues, then putting the matter up for a vote. When the "anti's" lose, the "pro's" get all self-congratulatory about how the city's moving forward. Then nothing proceeds to happen.

'twas also nice to see that the councilwoman with the blush-inducing last name will sit out this term, though I would've liked to see Bortz in the win column and Winburn on the bench with Leslie.

Roxanne rox!!! Ding dong, Issue 2 is dead!!!

Congrats on a largely positive election outcome, from afar.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Oxford, Ohio
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OK everyone let's stop with the holier-than-thou admonitions. This is an anonymous Internet message board, not "real life." And that's part of why I enjoy coming on here.
We're not allowed to issue "holier-than-thou" admonitions, but because this is an anonymous message board, you enjoy coming here and engaging in hyperbole, saying what you want, because no one will find out who you are...is that what you're saying?

Abr, have you ever heard the expression "Your true character is who you really are when no one else is looking"...? By remaining anonymous and treating us as "strangers", which is what you are basically doing, as well as casting aspersions at people you don't know, you're showing more of your true colors than you do in real life. Remember that.


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If they pay for a rail line spur west from Main St to Broadway they'll pay for anything. ('sall right, we knew what'cha meant.)
LMAO!!

Honestly, I swear I wanted to say something about that, too...but I didn't want abr to feel like we were picking on him.

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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If they pay for a rail line spur west from Main St to Broadway they'll pay for anything. ('sall right, we knew what'cha meant.)

I hope this latest transport referendum goes against precedent. Cincy's notorious for having citizens take an "anti" stance toward hot issues, then putting the matter up for a vote. When the "anti's" lose, the "pro's" get all self-congratulatory about how the city's moving forward. Then nothing proceeds to happen.

'twas also nice to see that the councilwoman with the blush-inducing last name will sit out this term, though I would've liked to see Bortz in the win column and Winburn on the bench with Leslie.

Roxanne rox!!! Ding dong, Issue 2 is dead!!!

Congrats on a largely positive election outcome, from afar.
Ahh yes, I got my inner directional sense mixed up there. I guess it could conceivably run west from Main to Broadway Commons, but it would have to circle the earth first to reach its destination.

As for Leslie Ghiz, I too am ecstatic to see her out. She was as divisive a presence on Council as I can remember and she really contributed nothing. Her grandstanding press conference held on the side of Columbia Parkway the day after the police officer's car was hit by an unlicensed idiot was over-the-top pandering. And now, true to form, she announced yesterday that she's putting her North Avondale home up for sale and moving to the burbs. Really? Could she be any more of a sore loser? That alone tells me she was on Council for no other reason that to play politics and throw wrenches into the city's plans.

kjbrill: I agree that the city should in no way pay any part of a spur that runs to the casino and stops there. If we're talking about something that runs up into Walnut Hills, that would be a different matter. But I would not support a private line to the casino's front door. No way.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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I am all for the Streetcar! I think that would be a wonderful convienient alternative to walking downtown! I'll ride it frequently. I can't wait!
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