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Old 11-27-2012, 01:58 PM
 
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My wife and I have been at the same apartment complex for more than two years. We bought a nice grill as many of our neighbors also had them on their deck. Several months ago, we received a notice that grills had to be removed per fire code which said they could not be operated. I did not remove my grill, but detached the propane and have not used it since.

Last week, we received a notice that all gas grills had to be removed by this coming Saturday or we would face a minimum $1,000 fine from the local fire department. As far as I can tell, the code only states that I can not operate a gas or charcoal grill on the deck. It says nothing about storing said grill on the deck. It seems to me that it is up to the fire department to regularly patrol the complex and fine those who are using their grills, when catching them in the act.

Has anyone faced a similar situation? Anyone think I face a snowball's chance at fighting this?
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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My wife and I have been at the same apartment complex for more than two years. We bought a nice grill as many of our neighbors also had them on their deck. Several months ago, we received a notice that grills had to be removed per fire code which said they could not be operated. I did not remove my grill, but detached the propane and have not used it since.

Last week, we received a notice that all gas grills had to be removed by this coming Saturday or we would face a minimum $1,000 fine from the local fire department. As far as I can tell, the code only states that I can not operate a gas or charcoal grill on the deck. It says nothing about storing said grill on the deck. It seems to me that it is up to the fire department to regularly patrol the complex and fine those who are using their grills, when catching them in the act.

Has anyone faced a similar situation? Anyone think I face a snowball's chance at fighting this?
First off all, I have no idea why the local fire department says you cannot operate a gas grill on the deck. In what jurisdiction is this? Second of all, if you have disconnected the propane tank it is no longer a gas grill, just some hardware you are storing. I would certainly fight this unjust situation until you can move.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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The rule is more a building code issue, ie your not allowed to have an open flame x amount of feet from combustable materials. This includes tiki torches, fire pits, grills, etc. now enforcement of this is something that's going to vary and I'm sure you could win, unless your complex has adopted rules and is the one doing the fining.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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After a little more research I understand more the issue of the gas grill on a wood deck. I understand quite a large number of fires are started this way. I can understand why in a multi-story apartment building with a wood deck on each floor the restriction. I still say if you disconnect the propane tank and render it inoperable you are simply storing it in a convenient place. If you actuallt remove the propane tank and store it comeplace else it is obviously inoperable.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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It's Miami Twp Fire Department, but they're enforcing Ohio state fire code. In talking with my apartment management, they said the fire department planned to fine anyone for still storing the deck there, because people may still use the grill. My wife has relatives in the area so we may just store it with them. I think I could probably fight it, but it's not worth the hassle and potential fine.

I don't quite understand what the difference is between the grill on my patio and all the potential fire hazards of cooking in a kitchen, but I'm glad Big Brother is looking out for me.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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It's Miami Twp Fire Department, but they're enforcing Ohio state fire code. In talking with my apartment management, they said the fire department planned to fine anyone for still storing the deck there, because people may still use the grill. My wife has relatives in the area so we may just store it with them. I think I could probably fight it, but it's not worth the hassle and potential fine.

I don't quite understand what the difference is between the grill on my patio and all the potential fire hazards of cooking in a kitchen, but I'm glad Big Brother is looking out for me.
I believe the whole issue is the wood deck. They have been shown to be a fire hazard involving grills, since many people pay little attention to the catch pan, etc. under their grill. So hot embers can fall out and down onto the wood floor. I am glad I have a concrete patio rather than a wood deck.
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