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Old 12-14-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Everytime I have been to OTR of late it's been mobbed with yuppies and hipsters. I was at City Flea in Washington Park last Saturday night. I attempted to get something to eat at The Anchor on Race and 15th. They had an hour and a half wait. aTavola had a 45 minute wait. Senate was the same. I wound up at Abigail Street where my wife spotted three stools open at their bar, so we hawked them (family of 3.) Abigail Street had a wait of an hour and a half as well. What's my point in all of this?

OTR is already on target for attracting the young and hip, and they have mobbed the place. You can't put in housing fast enough. The CBD, OTR, and Pendleton now have 13,000 residents and a shortage of housing in light of the demand. Cincinnati is starting to come into the national spotlight for it's accomplishments. Don't let a few suburban posters on CD throw you a curve ball and give you the wrong impression. Cincinnati is up and coming, and I predict it will eventually have the rep. as a hip place to be. Especially given the vibrancy that has taken hold in OTR.
I'll be honest, its impressive, I guess I'm impatient regarding national media coverage. There has been a trickle but nothing compared to the buzz surrounding Pittsburgh or even lately Louisville.

JMecklenborg mentioning national geographic working on something is cool though - its just going to be slow until the city reaches a breaking point. Though I wonder if the slowness of this coverage is in part due to Cincinnati not being boastful enough?

Also OTR has changed a ton in the last 10 years, I have a huge grin on my face when I'm back in town walking through the neighborhood (which I never did when I lived there) - I never thought I'd see it in such good shape (still a ways to go though).
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Cleveland Heights, OH
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I was a Cincinnati Buddhist and there are many sanghas of different lineages there. I lived in Cincy for 10 years, then Portland for 10 years. My wife and I recently moved back to Ohio for the low cost of living. Only we didn't move to Cincy, but Cleveland. We are both extremely liberal (she is from Oregon and I'm from Ohio but somehow turned out very liberal), and a big reason we moved to Cleveland over Cincy was the politics and social values of Cincy. This despite the fact that I have many friends in Cincy. I've got to say, as nice as Cincy is in so many ways, we absolutely love living in Cleveland. There is a lot of room for improvement, but it is a much friendlier and more welcoming city. At least that has been my experience.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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It frustrates me to see other cities that have lesser architectural and historic grandeur steal the light from Cincy.
Oh, waahhhhh. What a good illustration of provincialism in Cincinnati. You sound like a poor loser.

Instead of whining about other cities "steal[ing] the light", why not instead talk about Cincinnati in its own right? Don't compare it to Louisville, or to Portland, or to Columbus or Indianapolis or Pittsburgh or St. Louis or ...

That's what frustrates me.

Cincinnati is Cincinnati, it has its good points and its bad points. Fortunately, the good points outweigh the bad points. It's a great place to live, to have a career, and to raise a family. There's a huge variety of "stuff to do" for a city its size. There is natural and man-made beauty alike.

Residents of Cincinnati, former residents of Cincinnati, prospective residents of Cincinnati, visitors to the city, and the national media alike can appreciate other cities ... and their architectural and historic grandeur ... without diminishing Cincinnati's charms. To insist that they cannot is quite unrealistic, to say the least.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Residents of Cincinnati, visitors to the city, and the national media alike can appreciate other cities ... and their architectural and historic grandeur ... without diminishing Cincinnati's charms.
Well, and it's not if Cincinnati hasn't been in the national spotlight lately for redeveloping the river front, etc. New York Times, I believe it was.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/r...anted=all&_r=0
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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I'll be honest, its impressive, I guess I'm impatient regarding national media coverage.
Bruh, just enjoy the process. Both Pittsburgh and Louisville have been at it longer than Cincinnati. And who's to say Cincy won't be a best kept secret of sorts. I'm fine with that. You should see what being hip and trendy has done to NYC. Ruined it from what it used to be when I was there. I think hip is overrated. And Cincinnati does not need to compare to other cities, it's doing fine on it's on. Some of these other cities would probably do well to compare themselves to Cincinnati. Especially with 3CDC at the helm, and what they have accomplished. OTR was a disaster zone. Look at it now. And it's really just getting started. Like I said, enjoy the process.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Heights, OH
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I will say this: if you are used to the NW, Cincy may be a more logical choice. It feels more like a city like PDX or Seattle. Cleveland, while bigger, feels more provincial in how it is set up. If you are looking for a town that has a better chance of ending up like Portland or Seattle, Cincy is the better choice. Cleveland is a breeze to get around with next to no traffic, but Cincy has the density and amazing architecture. Cleveland is cheaper and much quirkier, I'd say. Cleveland feels like numerous small towns or villages where Cincy feels like a small city with a variety of neighborhoods, if that makes sense Also, I echo the positive sentiments re Louisville. I spent a summer there and thought it was a heck of a town, one you might want to consider.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Residents of Cincinnati, former residents of Cincinnati, prospective residents of Cincinnati, visitors to the city, and the national media alike can appreciate other cities ... and their architectural and historic grandeur ... without diminishing Cincinnati's charms.
Its more a matter of overlooking it instead of seeing it that's all.

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Bruh, just enjoy the process. Both Pittsburgh and Louisville have been at it longer than Cincinnati. And who's to say Cincy won't be a best kept secret of sorts. I'm fine with that. You should see what being hip and trendy has done to NYC. Ruined it from what it used to be when I was there. I think hip is overrated. And Cincinnati does not need to compare to other cities, it's doing fine on it's on. Some of these other cities would probably do well to compare themselves to Cincinnati. Especially with 3CDC at the helm, and what they have accomplished. OTR was a disaster zone. Look at it now. And it's really just getting started. Like I said, enjoy the process.
NYC has gone too far, but where Cincy is at it would take decades to reach that point. Not even Chicago is to that point.

The leadership of 3CDC is astonishingly good, as is the current city (compared to when I was there too many bad memories of infighting while the city was crumbling around them).

I'm enjoying every min of watching it, hopefully it will get the attention it deserves. Places like Dayton Street should be multi million dollar neighborhoods not places that are on the brink of being completely destroyed due to lack of demand.

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It feels more like a city like PDX or Seattle.
It totally does, and once it gets decent rail tranist it would in a lot of ways kick those cities rears. Particularly PDX which while culturally rich, has a terrible economy.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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Oh, waahhhhh. What a good illustration of provincialism in Cincinnati. You sound like a poor loser.

Instead of whining about other cities "steal[ing] the light", why not instead talk about Cincinnati in its own right? Don't compare it to Louisville, or to Portland, or to Columbus or Indianapolis or Pittsburgh or St. Louis or ...

That's what frustrates me.

Cincinnati is Cincinnati, it has its good points and its bad points. Fortunately, the good points outweigh the bad points. It's a great place to live, to have a career, and to raise a family. There's a huge variety of "stuff to do" for a city its size. There is natural and man-made beauty alike.

Residents of Cincinnati, former residents of Cincinnati, prospective residents of Cincinnati, visitors to the city, and the national media alike can appreciate other cities ... and their architectural and historic grandeur ... without diminishing Cincinnati's charms. To insist that they cannot is quite unrealistic, to say the least.
That is probably the best bet for Cincy's continued growth. It really does have a lot to offer, especially with its housing stock. It just has a long way to go.

I also agree with the sentiment stated above that Cincy has the potential to be like the cities of the Pacific Northwest, it is just decades behind in that regard.

I think Cincy's major issue right now are national image, race relations, and social environment. Hamilton county, was the ONLY county in America with a large city at its seat to vote for McCain in 2008.

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Old 12-14-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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It just has a long way to go.
I think you have a long way to go in realizing what is happening in Cincinnati, present day. People on the outside looking in who haven't been here in a few years are working with very dated information.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think Cincy's major image right now are national image, race relations, and social environment. Hamilton county, was the ONLY county in America with a large city at its seat to vote for McCain in 2008.
That is NOT true. I think its a sign of cultural shifting taking place in the city or at the very least a large African American population having higher turnout than normal to support the first AA president. Same thing happened but at smaller margin in the last election.

Ohio results: Obama wins Northeast Ohio and large urban counties; McCain runs strong elsewhere | cleveland.com
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