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Old 01-02-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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I get the majority of my local Mason and surrounding news from the Pulse Journal organization. I believe they are organized out of Mason and are part of Cox Publishing. I use the online website only. If they still have a print edition I have no idea why. I know years ago advertising rates were set by newspapers based on circulation, how many print editions they generated even if most of them went down a manhole. Certainly this went by the wayside years ago? So why does their website still have a tab to get the print edition?

I would be much more likely to pay a subscription fee to Pulse Journal to maintain their online content than to Cincinnati.com. Why? Because they quite simply publish information pertinent to the immediate area I live in, usually quite accurate, and do not project pretentious views. In other words I feel I can trust them - novel idea heh?
Cox is a lot bigger and more diversified than most people realize. They even got into a Hawaiian pineapple plantation. They have many media outlets, and many Cox papers are small local ones.

Cox has a definite "Democrat" bent, and they are not immune to mistakes. But, they do present top news online as fast as something like Yahoo News. They don't necessarily have an attitude that, say, Dayton wants. And, they do use facebook for comments.

I suggest anyone interested look up their corporate website. It's revealing.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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How many are getting the Grace Period Over or equivalent message from Cincinnati.com when attempting to access it?

Apparently they have instituted their subscription fee service for digital media also. I read some articles stating they feel justified in doing this due to the high level of reporting they provide. High level, that is news to me.

I cancelled the print edition over 10 years ago as it had become only fodder for the recycling bin.

Apparently those who still subscribe to a print edition, the price of which went up in October, will still be granted access to the digital media.

I looked up the subscription rates online. I can get a Digital Media Only subscription for $10/month. No thanks, I will just have no subscription. Those who post links to Cincinnati.com on City-Data I will just miss.

BTW... Have any of you been confronted with posting an obituary in the Enquirer recently - WOW! For a paper with a constantly shrinking circulation they are apparently trying to make the revenue up via obituaries - some public service.
This is hilarious. That the Enquirer sees themselves as a quality news organization akin to legitimate newspapers across the country is nothing short of hysterical. I really miss the Cincinnati Post and the two-newspaper city.

An interesting aside regarding Cox News: The Atlanta Journal Constitution is almost entirely copy edited and designed, aside from its sports section, in downtown Dayton at the Dayton Daily News building on South Main Street. Some of the AJC copy editing staff was relocated to Dayton. Portions of the Austin American-Stateman and the West Palm Beach newspaper are designed and edited in Dayton also. But the Dayton Daily News' sports section is entirely edited and designed in West Palm Beach, Fla.

Nothing like keeping newspapers local.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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This is hilarious. That the Enquirer sees themselves as a quality news organization akin to legitimate newspapers across the country is nothing short of hysterical. I really miss the Cincinnati Post and the two-newspaper city.
The Enquirer sucks. I read them online anyway, and have numerous tricks to beat their paywall. Really, I check several news outlets because they all seem to report something different.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I always preferred the Post myself, especially once I moved into the city. The Post reporters knew how to locate City Hall; the Enquirer hasn't always been so good at it.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis and Cincinnati
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Newspaper are a lot like libraries, dinosaurs that will soon be extinct. I get most of my news online and I can filter out the junk I dont need. Local news is well served by the blogging community who seems to know what is going on well before the enquirer reporters. Having broke some stories on my blog over the last few years that were later 'discovered' by the Enquirer days or weeks later I have to wonder how 'connected' to the community they really are.

The facts are there are local bloggers who cover neighborhoods, historic preservation, dining, local travel and , urban planning, the environment and politics and they do a responsible job of it and are not 'beholding' to city hall or advertisers.

Journalism, as we used to know it , is no longer the province of newspaper and three networks. You can subscribe to blogs and other outlets for free and get content delivered to your inbox everyday and more likely than not, it is not going to be slanted or filtered based on the politics of an owner or editorial board.

The Enquirer, and papers nationally ,have to deal with that reality, and rather than try to be relevant, provide news, and find a way to make money via advertising content, they want to upfront charge for it and in my opinion its a mistake on their part.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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The facts are there are local bloggers who cover neighborhoods, historic preservation, dining, local travel and , urban planning, the environment and politics and they do a responsible job of it and are not 'beholding' to city hall or advertisers.
Sorry. For every local blogger who is not "beholding" to anyone, there are a dozen who use their blogs to spout their own opinions, and disguise it as news.

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You can subscribe to blogs and other outlets for free and get content delivered to your inbox everyday and more likely than not, it is not going to be slanted or filtered based on the politics of an owner or editorial board.
Boy, have I got a bridge to sell you ...
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis and Cincinnati
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I think most reasonably intelligent people can look at content and figure out if its bias or not. Obviously Daily Koz had one slant and Brietbart has another. Some people gravitate to content that paints the world the way they already see it and like their "rose colored glasses world".

Anyone who reads my blog reads it because its pro preservation and neighborhood /old house oriented. Thats what I cover.

My point was that you can find news sources that are reliable, IF you look for them. Unfortunately we live in a world of "low information' people who believe news comes from Entertainment Tonight.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: A voice of truth, shouted down by fools.
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The paywall issue is easy. 1) Install Firefox. 2) Install a plugin called "Cookie Monster". 3) Change the default cookie behavior for cincinnati.com from "Default action - accepted" to "Accept Session Cookies". After you close your browser the last set of cookies are discarded automatically (that's what session means.)

On my browser, every time I go to Cincinnati.com, I get the little pop up on the left that says "Enjoy a Limited Number of Articles Over the next 30 days." So it does not know of me on each return trip.

Also, I installed a plugin to Firefox called Scrapbook. It will make a local copy of any web page that you like. I now assiduously save any news pages from the local crappy fish wrapper rag because I know they're gonna paywall the content.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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The paywall issue is easy. 1) Install Firefox. 2) Install a plugin called "Cookie Monster". 3) Change the default cookie behavior for cincinnati.com from "Default action - accepted" to "Accept Session Cookies". After you close your browser the last set of cookies are discarded automatically (that's what session means.)

On my browser, every time I go to Cincinnati.com, I get the little pop up on the left that says "Enjoy a Limited Number of Articles Over the next 30 days." So it does not know of me on each return trip.

Also, I installed a plugin to Firefox called Scrapbook. It will make a local copy of any web page that you like. I now assiduously save any news pages from the local crappy fish wrapper rag because I know they're gonna paywall the content.
Yes, with some effort I probably could trick their web site into not knowing I am there. But you know what, it is just not worth the effort. For what little content I find worthwhile there I can just go someplace else. If they cannot track the users they cannot charge the advertisers for an unknown. That much I understand. If I just ignore them maybe I can hasten their demise.

I go back to when this was a 3-paper city, the Post, Times-Star, and Enquirer. Of course that was pre-TV when everyone got their news from the paper.

Just saw recently where Newsweek bit the dust. I remember when I had a subscription to Newsweek, Time, US News & World Report and Life. I currently have subscriptions to exactly zero magazines or newspapers.

Someone else said libraries are obsolete. They are more than obsolete, they are dinosaurs. It has been at least 20 years since I was last in a library. What is the purpose?

My son got his mother a Kindle for Christmas. His comment was throw all of those cookbooks you have in the trash. You can find a receipe for anything you are looking for on the net. He said Mom I actually found a recipe for goetta you posted over 15 years ago, when you had your own web site, she did. It is still floating around out there.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: A voice of truth, shouted down by fools.
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It's almost no effort once the stuff is set up. I find it worthwhile to do this because I have found that this trick (forcing session cookies per site) works for all Gannett sites, Cox media sites, and the NY Times. It just doesn't work for sites that demand a login to see any content, like the Business Courier.
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