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Old 02-26-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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OH NO! Someone actually believes something different than you, the horror the HORROR!


...And people wonder why Cincy has a hard time attracting the best and brightest in spite of all of its assets
Given the title of the thread, the irony of the original comment about the Obama signs was not lost on me. But it was extraordinarily typical of Cincinnati area attitudes.

Apparently the OP does not realize that based on results some substantial number of the "best and brightest" he hopes Cincinnati will attract apparently voted for the President, right along with those shiftless, racist, entitled African-American lowlifes he observed on the streets of Evanston. And these folks apparently voted for the President not once but twice.

When those people he hopes to attract get here, I hope they are not as turned off as I have been to the widespread assumption by the local ultra-conservative natives that everyone they perceive as a member of their own social class shares their politics. If so, a bunch of them will be planning their next transfer out of here within the year.

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Old 02-26-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Preliminary Tallies: Without Youth Vote, Obama Would Have Lost Election - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

To the OP: So you would place the majority of young people in the same category as loiterers with nothing better to do? Some of them happen to be the best and brightest too.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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To worms and parry- in my neighborhood nobody had any signs, because they are courteous, professional people who figure voters can make up their own minds.

Then the problem neighbor reared their ugly head. This is a couple from the "other side" of town who rented a house here and then secretly started running a daycare. When the landlord found out, he was furious. Secretive and deceptive. Landlord found out due to lowlife tenant threatening to sue if landlord not bring house up to "daycare" code. Then lowlife tenant tried to get zoning changed so they could double their govt. subsidized daycare.

Their discourtesy to their neighbors is harmful and selfish, but they could care less. 12 screaming kids outside all day long screaming, shrieking, and banging aluminum ballbats on the pavement. When the neighbors got wind of the zoning, they expressed their opinion about this tenant who does not fit in and degraded the quality of life for the rest of us. Add to that a steady stream of traffic in/out of their driveway midnite-2am that is alarming and inappropriate for any such professional neighborhood.

Anyway, no signs in neighborhood, but then the daycare tenant puts a big blue "Workers for Obama!" and "No redistricting!!" signs big and bold right on the street and in-your-face to their conservative neighbors who had the gall to express the opinion that they did not appreciate the UNCARING daycare tenant destroying their property values.

Misfits, trouble makers, self-righteous, could care less about their neighbors, obstinate (doubling down on their destruction with the zoning attempt), need to LOUDLY and confrontationally express their politics, are we seeing a pattern here?

BTW, the day after the destructive liberals put up that first neighborhood sign, the opposite signs started popping up, because they were being made to look like doormats.

Finally, it needs repeated the degree of abnormality of those Evanston signs (wish I had taken photos). Yes I saw the white romney signs predominating in the conservative strongholds, but much more sporadic. The Evanston scene was SO unusual, which is why I remember it so well. Ten (10) streets of fifty (50) houses each, and EVERY lawn with blue sign (many cases two). That's 500 in-a-row, and I defy you to tell me about anything even half as severe in the whole of Cincinnati during that time.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Whoop De Doo, and this has absolutely what to do with attracting the best and brightest? I agree we need to attract capable people to the area. But sometimes the best and brightest are also the most self-centered and selfish.

I will be more than satisfied with the hard working, family oriented, want to see my neighborhood elevate, people over the best and brightest any day. Not everyone is a genius, and not every genius has common smarts.

Give me someone with common sense over the best and brightest and I know who I will chose.

BTW, is this a Cincinnati oriented thread? And if so just how? Seems more like a national thread to me.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Mr. Brill- yes of course this is a Cincinnati oriented thread, and thank you for bringing us back to focus.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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But sometimes the best and brightest are also the most self-centered and selfish.
Man, what a good quotation
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Anyway, no signs in neighborhood, but then the daycare tenant puts a big blue "Workers for Obama!" and "No redistricting!!" signs big and bold right on the street and in-your-face to their conservative neighbors who had the gall to express the opinion that they did not appreciate the UNCARING daycare tenant destroying their property values.

Misfits, trouble makers, self-righteous, could care less about their neighbors, obstinate (doubling down on their destruction with the zoning attempt), need to LOUDLY and confrontationally express their politics, are we seeing a pattern here?

BTW, the day after the destructive liberals put up that first neighborhood sign, the opposite signs started popping up, because they were being made to look like doormats.
Not good people obviously, but people like this aren't just liberal, conservative, libertarian or socialist etc. Reasonable people come from all political backgrounds as do jerks and these guys are obviously jerks. People are people.

A lack of tolerance towards others (which I will distinguish from being intolerant of jerks who deserve it of all stripes and philosophies) is very much a theme that is discussed as a critique of Cincinnati, so the thread I believe is very much about the city itself and its culture and very much has to do with its ability to attract the best and brightest people.

On the flip side I agree with you 100% about Evanston and Walnut Hills, though sadly the Walnut Hills Comm council has done more demos than preservation of its business district which IMO should have been leveraged as the asset it was. What's left of it hopefully will be fixed up which will be a good thing, but I wish they could have tried harder to save it maybe by getting the Port Authority in on the situation to at least stabilize the buildings for when the inevitable happens and that area becomes a hot neighborhood.

Also part of Evanston does attract YPs, that's O'Brianville which is technically part of Evanston, now if only it would expand beyond a very small business district and surrounds.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Hey thanks Neil, I was starting to cringe I might get bashed again.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'll admit I was being a touch of a jerk to illustrate a point.

The internet makes this sort of thing maybe a touch too easy.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Over-the-Rhine, Ohio
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IMO Cincinnati's best (and only) hope for significant advancement, or even to prevent a slow demise, is to leverage the bejeezus out of P&G's branding leadership position, while we still can. That is the only truly unique advantage this city has over others. And the potential is unlimited, if it takes hold.

Here's my plan: Make Cincinnati a destination city by building a huge convention center, ala McCormick center in Chicago. This convention center will become ground-zero of the "Branding Capital of the World", hosting an annual summit anchored by the inventor and still reigning champion of branding, P&G.

Branding is hotter than ever (eg. "personal branding"), and has even more potential than I will disclose in this public forum.

Chicago, LA, and NYC had their large bodies of water to help then become destinations. We don't have that, but we have just enough of one to accompany the branding summit.

Cincinnati needs a big idea like this to hang its hat on, not a bunch of tiny ideas like the current plan (most of which are just "redistribution" plans).

I agree completely...and it's happening.


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